ICM Rules of Thumb?
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ICM Rules of Thumb?
Anyone got any good rules of thumb for ICM situations / a mental checklist? I know +cEV shove/fold well but don't have ICM tuition and it frequently gets me into trouble.
Example bustout hand from $22 mini supersonic below approx 630/1250, top 630 or so paid:
Table '2962248053 175' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: AceSweaty (23280 in chips)
Seat 2: rmpkrbr (20672 in chips)
Seat 3: sultanhenkie (70618 in chips)
Seat 4: Schmutzig (54096 in chips)
Seat 5: jdog199 (15402 in chips)
Seat 6: stannie1997 (25840 in chips)
AceSweaty: posts the ante 400
rmpkrbr: posts the ante 400
sultanhenkie: posts the ante 400
Schmutzig: posts the ante 400
jdog199: posts the ante 400
stannie1997: posts the ante 400
jdog199: posts small blind 800
stannie1997: posts big blind 1600
* HOLE CARDS
Dealt to AceSweaty [As Ts]
AceSweaty: raises 21280 to 22880 and is all-in
rmpkrbr: folds
sultanhenkie: folds
Schmutzig: raises 30816 to 53696 and is all-in
jdog199: folds
stannie1997: folds
Uncalled bet (30816) returned to Schmutzig
FLOP [3s 8c 2d]
TURN [3s 8c 2d] [Kh]
RIVER [3s 8c 2d Kh] [3h]
SHOW DOWN
AceSweaty: shows [As Ts] (a pair of Threes)
Schmutzig: shows [Jh Ah] (a pair of Threes - Ace+King+Jack kicker)
Schmutzig collected 50560 from pot
AceSweaty finished the tournament in 1185th place
SUMMARY *
Total pot 50560 | Rake 0
Board [3s 8c 2d Kh 3h]
Seat 1: AceSweaty showed [As Ts] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 2: rmpkrbr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: sultanhenkie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Schmutzig (button) showed [Jh Ah] and won (50560) with a pair of Threes
Seat 5: jdog199 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: stannie1997 (big blind) folded before Flop
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unfortunately, the best way is just running tuns of hands through ICMizer and reviewing them. It should give you a good understanding over time
When you run hands in ICMizer or Holdem Resource Calculator or ... you will see that moving all-in from early position and put your ~15 BB stack at risk is not the best play. The reason behind is that you want to have fold opportunity if two players behind you decide to move all in meaning that the second player for sure has a better range then your hands and you can still fold. I actually think that min-raising is actually more +EV then shoving here.
The later the position the more shoving becomes a more +EV play then just min-raising, of course this depends also on stack sizes.
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