How bad is this call on the flop?

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How bad is this call on the flop?

Blinds: t75/t150 (9 Players) UTG: laurentgina: 2,011
MP: Isildurrrrr9: 2,934 (Hero)
UTG+1: Xander_B88: 2,130
MP+1: Banduga666: 3,173
MP+2: petcook: 1,205
CO: AAnisimof: 2,530
BN: kitemar183: 1,451
SB: Koppis64: 4,809
BB: MC Trap91: 1,771
no more than 20 hand sample on anyone so readless
Preflop (225) Isildurrrrr9 is MP with A K
laurentgina calls 150, Isildurrrrr9 raises to 450, 7 folds, laurentgina calls 300
3x over and utg limp seems standard? bit too deep to shove
Flop (1,125) T 6 Q
laurentgina checks, Isildurrrrr9 bets 375, laurentgina raises to 1,561 and is all in, Isildurrrrr9 calls 1,186
cbet assuming decent amount of equity with gutshot two overs and a back door flush draw, managed to talk my self into calling thinking I was getting a good enough price against some one pair hands + bluffs in his range
Turn (4,247) T 6 Q 4
River (4,247) T 6 Q 4 T
Final Pot laurentgina wins and shows two pair, Tens and Deuces.
Isildurrrrr9 lost and shows a pair of Tens.
laurentgina wins 4,247

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slackie7 9 years, 1 month ago

Just fold. I think the problem is unless you have a specific read that can put him On KJ...J9...AJ type of hands, you don't beat anything. Even his semi-bluffs, like the 22. When players limp UTG more often than not they have the stone cold nuts, hands like 910 suited suited or small pairs. I know it is difficult to fold in these spots. But sometimes you just have to let it go to preserve your stack for later in the tournament. GL.

window_turnip 9 years, 1 month ago

The more I've thought about this hand the more I feel like I made a good call, even against a hand like QJ I have enough equity given the price I have to call

Easa 9 years, 1 month ago

I prefer to not cbet there if i don't want to call a shove. We have a lot of equity and cbet fold is not an option there imo. I prefer to delay cbet if he check on turn

JGustavo 9 years, 1 month ago

I don't like the cbet in that spot since at low stakes we can find players limping with low pairs and connectors. So, in my opinion, that flop hits more the villain's range, he could be limping with T9,JT,76 and all pairs 66-22. I would just check behind and evaluate the turn.

Tdogger88 9 years, 1 month ago

Given the odds and the money in the pot i think we have to call and hope to hit. We're pretty much never ahead when the money goes in though. That said, i agree with the other comments here, the first thing i thought was check back flop. Most people are very rarely folding better here (apparently this guy NEVER folds better here). But lots of hands can reshove giving us a tough decision when we already have showdown equity.

Thevitz 9 years, 1 month ago

I don't really like the cbet in this spot as it can leave you with a difficult decision (as the cbet can easily price you in to call villains all in). Though, since you did cbet, I don't mind your call here. However, I would have played this hand a little different. Majority of the time, I'd just take the free card. A small amount of the time I'd consider just shoving after villain checks.

Villain isn't limping AQ, QK , plus you have blockers, QJs could be in his range. It's hard putting villain on TQ here considering he jammed on you. I feel TQ calls in this spot and hopes to extract more chips on the turn from you. I would have to put villain on pocket pairs 22-88, QJs, 89s, T9s, A2s-ATs but unlikely due to you having the ace blocker.

Lastly, I try not to overplay AK at these limits. I'm guilty of it at times but defiantly learning to correct this leak.

Zenful 9 years, 1 month ago

We're playing 13bb's effective with laurentgina and 20 with everyone else, I think the only play here is shoving pre. By iso-ing pre you can see otf the spr is awkward and harder to play. Shoving this pre is the higher ev play and players behind can conceivably believe that we're shoving a pretty wide range and make them consider calling some hands like AJs, KQs, 66+. As played you have too much equity to fold, but this is a clear mistake preflop which has gotten you into a tough spot post - shove pre and save yourself the confusion.

TheChief 9 years, 1 month ago

If you think villain is capable or c/r 'ing it in very wide I like a bet call like you played.

As played I think this is an excellent candidate for a check back. Villain wont bluff too hard into us as we can have a wide by strong check back range here and you get to realize a lot of equity in your hand that stack wise hurts when you get shipped on.

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