Holdem Resources Calc - Card Removal?

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Holdem Resources Calc - Card Removal?

Does anyone know if the great Holdem Resources Calculator takes into account card removal when calculating the profitability of shoves? I'm mostly curious about late position shoves  (like BTN and SB) in full ring MTTs. I've been pretty much trying religiously to shove any profitable spot when short (like <16 bbs) when there aren't any ICM considerations. Over the past couple of months though it really seems like I am getting running into the top of the Blind's ranges and not getting enough folds to make some of the shoves profitable. It would seem like if Holdem Resources does not take card removal into account, than possibly some of the less profitable shoving hands may turn to negative chip EV, especially in full ring. 

Again, I'm just curious and may be totally wrong. But if any Holdem Resources Calc experts out there can shed any light on this, that would be awesome.  

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caseyg912 10 years, 10 months ago

And just to clarify, when I say card removal, I mean since everyone folded prior to late position, its more likely the blinds have better cards since we're assuming the folders didn't fold premiums, etc etc.

Rapha Nogueira 10 years, 10 months ago

I guessed no but it is from the site:

"Direct" card removal effects are correctly handled. This means that the calling/over-calling players hand distributions are correctly modified given the pushers/callers ranges.

However, no modifications to starting-hand distributions are made due to folding. e.g.: If 3 players fold in front, the 4th player's starting hand distribution is still assumed to be perfectly random. In reality, the 4th player probably has significantly more Aces in this situation.


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