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Hand from $1111 One Drop vs Layne Flack

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Hand from $1111 One Drop vs Layne Flack

Blinds 100-200 I have 6k Layne has 15k and is in full Layne Flack mode.  Hes opening wide from all positions   He seems very comfortable.  We have mixed it up a little bit, I'm of the opinion hes judging me as very LAG.  He opens UTG +1 to 550 folds to me in the BB.  I have 35 off.  Here are my thoughts:  I want to defend here because my best guess on his opening range is: Any suited 1 gappers any suited no gappers any 2 broadway + 9T, At+ and pairs but probably weighted towards 66 or 77+.  I gave him that range because I thought he would play anything playable but would probably avoid some problem hands that dont have a ton of value oop like bad suited aces and small pairs.  When I made my live read I read him for a playable hand but not a big hand so i deweighted big pairs and big aces.  My thought was that this would be a good spot to defend the 35 because I could lead out a low flop that I flop a pair on and he would perceive my lead as very air heavy and either raise or float with air, if he just jammed over me i would call if he raised smaller i would ship.    I could check fold an all high flop and probably opt to checkraise/call a flop like k38.  I would prefer to have 25bb i think though for this play than 30bb.  Thoughts?


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Tom M 11 years, 8 months ago

In a MTT field this soft(ish) I think I'd rather just take advantage of his LAG play when we can play pots in late position. Plus 30 BB is still a lot pre-antes so I doubt I'm going to craft some elaborate and pretty high variance move with a low equity hand.

Nick Rampone 11 years, 7 months ago

I appreciate your outside the box thinking here, but this is way too ambitious. Read your post again and look at the big picture. So many things have to go right for that scenario to materialize. And when it does, his KT spaz still has 6 outs twice vs your pair of 3s on 732r. 

I agree in theory that as an opponents opening range widens, one must defend wider. But this is taking that principle too far. Additionally, the opponents tendencies must be considered. This is a guy who is going to apply pressure post flop and fight for most pots. You're going to have to make a hand / some equity to win, and 35o rarely does that. 

Finally, Layne is expecting players to play widely vs him. Why not wait for a spot where you have top pair or something, and he's going to assume you're fooling around, and then you get it in with a strong hand vs his ranges and have great equity to double. 

I appreciate creative thinking more than most, but it cannot be at the expense of established fundamentals. 

benjhxc 11 years, 7 months ago

I dont think defending 35o which is basicly equal to any two is profitable against a player you describe as fairly competent; this hand is not going to flop well and this is even mor ev- when you are not so deep...

Grayson Ramage 11 years, 7 months ago

As Nick said, you really need a perfect storm of events and correct assumptions for this to be a profitable play. It's important to remember that you are dealing with an EP open against a competent player, in a field full of soft spots. There's really no need to go out of your way to play pots with him, especially not with a 35o.

Craig McCorkell 11 years, 7 months ago

So important to not over adjust in situations like this. Yes all the factors you have listed are great to establish and because of this we absolutely do need to be peeling wider out of the big blind in this spot. That being said, whatever post flop plans you can conjure up, your opponent needs to be so poor to make defending 35o here anywhere near break even.

Something else of a concern to me would be the "live read" you talk about when you say "When I made my live read I read him for a playable hand but not a big hand so i deweighted big pairs and big aces." I would be VERY cautious making a reads as specific as this, curious as to what he could have done for you to gauge this? 

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