Fold 1010 on BTN vs 4x Open by a thight passive vilain

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Fold 1010 on BTN vs 4x Open by a thight passive vilain

Hi,

Here the hand

You, in that spot vs a really thigh/passive vilain, would you called/raise/shove or fold like I did. I found it so much suspicious that I couldn't convince myself to do something else then folding. Do you think i'm right?

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iPokerrr 9 years, 3 months ago

Hey,

I've been in this spot myself multiple times and I've seen people do it with all sorts of hands (AXs, suiter broadways/connectors, small pairs). You have to consider the BB having 825 in chips. He could be 4x raising to easily call of the BB if they shove or they just want the BB to fold. Don't think he does that with QQ+, even JJ, so you are ahead most of the time. When you say tight/passive, do you have numbers on him or just a general knowledge from seeing him play?

To conclude, I think 5 handed, with 20BB I would shove as I truly believe you are ahead, now it might be a flip but that's why it's gambling. Also consider what stage of tournament you are in, ITM definitely I think a shove, on the bubble very tight fold, etc.

Note: This is my first ever post here, I've read a lot but never really posted, I would like to hear what other people think of my post as I could be completely wrong, but I think I would shove, simply because it's 5 handed with 20BB.

GL at the tables!

ampm93 9 years, 3 months ago

insta shove lol. he's always a donk when he raises 4x just to catch the BB , and i really doubt he would do that with the top of his range. He does it almost with any hand that has equity against a random BB hand, could be as weak as A5o. When you shove, maybe you don't have fold equity from him, but you have a hand that will be flipping at worst ;)

Smalltimeplayer 9 years, 3 months ago

Hi !

Interesting spot. I think if villain is passive we should definitely call and reevaluate on the flop since we have position. If you think he is aggressive and opening light and trying to steal blinds it's a 3bet jam imo because there is only 24 combo of value hands that beat us. However, I've seen aggressive players 4x open with the top of their range (QQ+ AK ) because they know when they do this there is a lot of air in their range that makes it look like they want to steal the blinds so I would be careful.

I personally think call and shoving is most optimal and folding is probably -EV.

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