first post...folded the winner and it sucked!
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first post...folded the winner and it sucked!
This is my first post as I just joined this site. My apologies if I'm not using this application appropriately.
$600 MTT $500K guarantee day 1A out of 4 day 1s. 12% of the field advance to day 2 (33 players) about 50 players remaining
1k/2k blinds
Me-140K stack
Villian 1 100k TAG (solid player played with many times)
Villain 2 400k chip leader, never played with and just sat down at the table
V1 is UTG raises to 6K. Action folds to me in the SB and I flat with JJ, and V2 flats.
Flop
669 with 2 spades
me-check, V1-check, V2 bets 6K. me-raise to 16k, v1- call, v2 calls
Turn
2 of spades
me-check (I have the J of spades), v1-bets 30K, v2-calls, me-fold
river
7 of diamonds
v1 check, v2 check
v1 wins the pot with 79 of hearts (2 pair) and I folded the winner having a better two pair jj and 66. V2 said he had AK with ace of spades.
A lot of different things I could have done but bottom line is that I felt one of them had to have the flush especially after they both called my check raise. I did have the J of spades and could have hit the flush on the river but didn't think that would be good enough with no AKQ on the board. I was obviously wrong but my gut said I was beat. Any thoughts? Thanks and looking forward to being a part of this community!
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hi solomonyi,
you should always 3-bet JJ out of position. this is the way you get the betting lead on the flop. if he 4-bets preflop, it is an easily fold (for me). + the bb will defend a wide range of his hands against the raise and your call, but he is folding much of them, if you 3-bet.
this would also change the history of the following streets. On the turn it is the right decission to fold against the bb range and the utg guy.
best regards
I was in this tourney too! And you were at my Day2 starting table. I agree this hand plays a lot better as a 3-bet from the SB. By just flatting we're allowing the BB a good price, and leaving ourselves OOP in a 3 way pot with a vulnerable hand. As played I think I just check call flop to keep control of the pot size (so as to not compound or earlier mistake of flatting pre). Our hand is still very underepped and we can get to showdown a lot of times with the best hand.
So we sat together on Day 1 and Day 2? Yea I made a couple mistakes on this one. I didn't think ahead as to what I would do if they called my 3bet and assumed I would take it down. Thanks for the feedback1
Nah we sat together Day2 starting table. I advanced from flight 1. We've played together before. You'd recognize me as a reg lol
JJ is a strong hand to flat and see the flop oop, with that kinf of hands make them pay for position. I would flat 88- and raise 99+.
As played I would have called flop, called turn and river depending on the bets.
You are only thinking on avoiding a AKQ flop but thinking that UTG opens (AK, AQ) hands he will only have 6 outs to win us on the flop. With that play you don't know if v1 has AA, KK, QQ and by playing like that you are turning your JJ into a bluff on the flop. 3bet, make them pay for position and if a 4bet appears easy fold.
You are 70bbs deep, utg opens 3x, lets say you make 7,5bbs (15k), v2 would fold and utg would quit in the flop/turn.
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