Big22 bubble time co with QQ
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Big22 bubble time co with QQ
Big22 here is the cash bubble. 321 cash and have 334 players
UTG+1 2BB raise. I only have 15 hands for him. VPIP 38% PFR 23% PFR in EP 40%(5)
I am in the CO QQ with 11BB
BTN 3.5BB
SB 24BB VPIP 11% PFR 8%
BB 30BB VPIP 20% PFR 10%
what could i do? is flod are the +money EV?
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I can't see how we can ever fold with the 3rd best hand in poker and only 11bbs. GL us. Even on the direct bubble I'm likely never folding.
Slow the game down as much as you can in that spot IMO. Check the lobby see how many people are close to busting, tank as much as you can and ship it. As ralphy said you have QQ and 11bbs so you can't really be folding here much at all unless villain was opening insanely tight and you had a decent sample on him. With 11bb you really want to start building a stack and with QQ you've pretty much woken up with the top of your range. Even giving him a nitty range of AJo, A10s, 77+ (9.65%) which I think is optimistic, you have 65% equity so you cannot fold here. Obviously the wider his range here the bigger your equity advantage, so apart from tanking this is a pretty straightforward decision. There is some ICM pressure but not enough, if this was the final table bubble then it would be good to calculate adjusted ICM ranges but I still think we're way too strong here.
thanks for your opinion. i konw QQ is very strong shove is the +EV but if flod will get the cash and still have 10BB to wait hands.
we shove and he call with any Ax Kx, we will 30% lose the money, 60% we double up, but still in the bottom position，dont have some money jump.
Despite min cashes being important to your long term ROI at this stack depth despite the ICM considerations we have to shove this, not doing so I would say is a big mistake. Even at a final table if you're not the shortest stack and you're facing a raise from the big stack it's always gonna be a shove at this stack depth. Perhaps a little deeper then we could consider peeling pre (moreso when there are ICM considerations) as obviously busting is bad when there's more than chip ev to consider.
A minimum cash shouldn't be your goal; building up a huge stack should be your goal. You won't have that many opportunities as good as this, with QQ against a loose player. If losing here will bother you too much, maybe you should play a little smaller stakes.
thanks for your opinion.
I'm shipping 98% of time with QQ here, unless however IE. final table bubble. or its your last bit of money you satellited in or something. You have an edge you gotta take it. Your priority as mentioned above is not a min cash. And you still have 13 guys that are time banking, theres no guarantee you will min cash even if you do fold. Thanks for this hand, I think folding here is a mistake however, we don't know how important a min cash is for you.
in regards to a final table bubble what would your play be here? I cannot imagine the play ever changes here, flatting? This can surely only be bad for us, especially if BB has a reasonable stack (15bb+) in order to peal.
I'm never folding this on the FT bubble. We want to go for max value. I think that, if you fold this there, you are throwing away money. the big money is in the top 3 spots. We should take every opportunity to get there.
I dont now. I guess, maybe call - VPIP 38% PFR 23%, without over card, i am all in.
snap it in and high five the monitor
I don't see where folding here would be an option as you are trying to gain a sizeable stack to make a run for the final table. 10BB and 3 people to act after you shove, you have the 3rd best starting hand in NLHE, seemingly majority of the times, they will be calling with worse.
You can't fold here, If the mincash is so important for you that you want to fold there with QQ you are playing for a too big bankroll. We don't want to mincash. We want to get deep. We should play for the win . Only consideration where I see miself folding QQ would be if the payjumps are significant. for instance last 5 playrs. and there are 1, 2 or 3 microstacks that will bust in 1 or 2 orbits.
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