Im not mentioning all the other players at the table folding preflop.
Blinds 40/80 Big 22 9man MTT with about 2k entrants
Villain 1 6,393 utg: Min raise 160
Villain 2 9,133 utg+2: 3bet to 600
Hero 4,789 BB: 4bet to 1985
Villain 1 insta shoves and so does Villain 2.
Hero has KK.
Can i ever fold here?
I was thinking about this yesterday when I crashed with the other big stack at hot 22 with KK and he had AA. Can we ever fold KK preflop +EV? I was thinking for a long time this hand, and really thought I was up against AA, but everyone is telling me folding KK preflop is always -EV so I eventually call. Villain 1 shows QQ and Villain 2 shows AA. I know this happens once in 40k hands or so, but still this has happened to me like 4 times in a week. I do think my edge is big enough that I can fold here still having 36bb behind and make my way up. I am still a believer that folding KK preflop ever is a mistake, but when my spidey senses tingle I think i should definitely fold. What is everyones opinion about this? I have no information about the villains as I just joined the table, and my personal opinion right now is that as long as I dont get paranoid whenever I get KK, I can fold it when I get the feeling he has AA. And yes I know when I have no information on these guys they can be doing this with TT JJ QQ AK, and maybe AQ.
And btw Q hit on the river ( :