BB Defend off 12bb and flopping super strong
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BB Defend off 12bb and flopping super strong
Blinds: t200/t400 (5 Players)
BB: 5,040 (Hero)
UTG: 11,320
CO: 20,318
BN: 13,114
SB: 15,032
UTG: 11,320
CO: 20,318
BN: 13,114
SB: 15,032
Preflop
(600)
Hero is BB with
4
7
, , ,
Flop
(2,000)
7
7
9
, , ,
Final Pot
BB wins 3,600
blah. I feel like check/piling is a mistake in this spot and is probably leaving money on the table, but I am torn about what is best. the board texture is such that I felt villain should be calling off with any pair or most 2 overs with a backdoor heart, etc. I also feel that protecting equity is valuable, but in reality we probably just get way too many folds when we check/shove. How are you guys playing this spot? If check/calling what are you doing on different turn textures? Here are some I think are interesting:
8h,8c,Kh,Ks,2d,9d
what are you doing on each of these turns if we flat flop?
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What would you do with T8/TJ/68/flush draws in this situation? If you would check shove all your draws in this spot then you need to balance with some stronger hands too. It wouldn't be surprising for an accomplished villian to bet call a hand like AJ or KQ because they assume you would check shove all your draws and trap with '7x'. If this is in a $109+ against a reg then I like check shoving, if in the Big 5.50 against a random, I think trapping is better.
I am def check shoving all those hands. This is a small MTT and I think that employing an exploitative strategy and being unbalanced is going to gain us more EV than being balanced and check shoving hands like this, but you make some really good points. I agree that vs. decent regs we should balance and this is a good hand to chk/shove for balance. I believe this was a $22 on Bovada, IMO there's probably a 90%+ chance that this villain is not sophisticated enough to be calling off as wide as they should on this flop, they will be very unbalanced and be cbet/folding way too much I think. Because it's an anonymous site I can't be certain, but just going with the tendencies of the field I believe that trapping is best.
EDIT:
I feel like I fairly constantly give opponents too much credit in the games I play, and play my ranges in ways that are somewhat balanced in general . This seems to result in me taking sub optimal lines against very unbalanced strategies. I don't think it's the worst to do that, but feel that I should know by now with the volume I've put in that exploiting fully will net more chips.
I feel like this should be a shove preflop as the short stack with 12bbs especially 5 handed. Why would we want to go to a flop OOP here being so short?
You would reshove 12bbs with 47o? So you would reshove 100% or just 95%? seems somewhat exploitable... but yolo i guess ;)
There is no villain that I would ever reshove against here. It is just lighting money on fire 100% of the time IMO. Even if it is profitable vs an insanely exploitable villain, it is razor thin and extremely high variance. Flatting is much better IMO and worth quite a bit more in EV.
Disregard! I thought you had 77! I misread your hand lol.
If we can balance or unbalanced range by balancing it before this spot, then our unbalanced range should be balanced against the balancing we want at the end of the hand. A balanceable strategy is to unbalance all the balances. This is +EV
sick troll bro
i think calling is okay pre-flop since the BN can raise with a lot of hands when it comes folded and against a short stack but going all in with 47o is a big no...i will re-raise to something 1600-2400 and wait for his response he is not likely to call this bet(people tend to get intimated on this kind of flop textures) and even if he does , you have got the nuts .. i think he would have played much more aggressive if there was any draw mostly OESD not sure about gutshot though...however i would have trapped him a bit since he was the preflop raiser.
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