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AKo vs 4bet pot 60bbs effective from a fish

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AKo vs 4bet pot 60bbs effective from a fish

UTG2: coinflip30: 1773
LJ: SHAKAJAMES: 14173
HJ: gerasnick: 13285
CO: Brad52286: 2612
BN: 15Lucky30: 31721
SB: josrocha: 21505
BB: Isy10: 20065
UTG: Jar Of Love: 8270
UTG1: popabitch: 17674
Preflop (450) (9 Players)
josrocha was dealt A K
Jar Of Love folds, popabitch raises to 900, coinflip30 raises to 1748, and is all in, SHAKAJAMES folds, gerasnick folds, Brad52286 folds, 15Lucky30 folds, josrocha calls 1598, Isy10 folds, popabitch raises to 17649, and is all in

Villain is playing 49/23 with a 42% R1. After the shove from the short
do you prefer call or isolate? After the 4bet from the fish how do you
play?



Thanks




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CairyHunts 11 years, 2 months ago

I'm more inclined to cold4 iso here. Then again, as played, i dont expect him to rip in 60bb effective with the top end of his range tbh, so might still be inclined to call here because most likely we're flipping vs a lot and dominating some of his shoving range. Think we can pull AA and KK out of his range here, not only because we block it, but because fish tend to play those hands differently/face up. Folding obv is fine too, since it's pretty high variance.


totheriver 11 years, 2 months ago

I think villian shoves because he doesn't know how to play AQ,AK, TT-QQ, postflop. I also don't think he has AA-KK here, although I wouldn't be surprised if he did flip over KK-AA, so I think we can call, but a fold and a pat on the back is ok. But if it was me I'll be making a crying call. 

totheriver 11 years, 2 months ago
Did some math, and I put villian on 99-QQ, AKs+,AQo+ I excluded KK and AA, since I really believe he'll rather play trappy and just call. So if we call we're 52% against his range. 


John Shamwoww 11 years, 2 months ago

Usually when I doubt they would play kings or aces this way I stove in at least a few combos of these hands to get a more clearer idea. Sometimes even though we can make assumptions, they're never going to be perfect assumptions vs weaker players and you have to account for all possible scenarios - like including KK and AA some % of the time when calculating their range. 


I'd much rather Stove my AK vs 99+ and AQ+ as well as 2 combos of aces and 2 combos of kings to decide whether to call or not rather than making a potentially big mistake by discounting those hands altogether and getting my chips in pretty bad - or at least not as profitably as I thought. 


In game I probably call and curse at my monitor when I bust. Next time he could show up with anything. That's just how it is vs "fish". 

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