$600 Live- AK 22bbs facing 3 bet

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$600 Live- AK 22bbs facing 3 bet

About 100 left out of 540 or so. Blinds 1200-2400 w 400 ante. Playing down to top 65 who advance to Day two and are automatically in the money. I had 50bbs coming back from dinner but haven't won a pot in a few levels and have dwindled down to 22bbs (~52k) here. Went completely card dead after dinner. I've opened exactly 3 pots over the last two levels and had to give up all three.

Villain: Good female player with lots of scores and a few wins and top finishes. She shoved over the top of my shove before dinner with 1010 vs my JJ to double me up. I later saw her 3-bet jam and showdown JJ. Plays basically tight-aggressive but I imagine she is capable of making moves, I just haven't seen any since it's only been a few hours playing with her. Her stack was somewhere around 70-80k iirc.

Action: I open UTG+1 to 5500 with AKoff which was pretty standard size at this table. Folds to villain on button who 3-bets me to 15k. I counted it down and decided I couldn't flat or fold and I jammed it. She tables QQ to hold and I bust.

Not sure if I'm over analyzing and this is super standard? I'm just wondering if she is ever going to be 3-betting on the light side here very often with her stack size. She might be pretty nitty here but can I really just fold? Seems way too weak, I can't do it.

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pintoelbajon 9 years, 11 months ago

Really? It seems like a pretty trivial shove.

JerseyGrinder23 9 years, 11 months ago

Seems like you stereotype players too much when you play. I think you have to look at the situation from a mathematical standpoint, and not just based on gender. I know plenty of women that play aggro.

Rapha Nogueira 9 years, 11 months ago

From a mathematical stand point, her 3betting strategy with sizing against this position and stack size shouldn't have AQs or 99-88 very often (and even TT-JJ I see lot of people flatting with some frequency).

I don't see how this can be, from a dynamic perspective, +EV.

SPrince 9 years, 11 months ago

I've opened exactly 3 pots over the last two levels and had to give up
all three.

Give up pre or post ?
Makes a lot of difference.If you folded to 3bets then she`d be more inclined to 3b light (making a shove better), if post then she might flat wider.Players behind are also important.

I agree with Rapha though, haven`t played much live donkaments but women tend to almost never or very rarely fold after 3betting with those stack sizes and positions, especially with that dynamic.

ralphykid67 9 years, 11 months ago

Two I had to give up post flop and one I got jammed on by shorty iirc.

Interesting that a few of you said fold. I have a hard time folding AK with this stack size against this action. So we think our equity against this player is that poor that we should just fold and move on with our 19bb stack (soon to be less after going through blinds)?? Do we all agree that against a more active and 3-bet happy player that a shove is standard?

I guess I should be more willing to avoid a big flip in this spot and just survive and wait for some "easier" chips later.

JerseyGrinder23 9 years, 11 months ago

Gotta shove unless you know she is a super tight nit. This would be a very interesting scenerio if you had 25-30bbs though. With under 20 gotta shove.

wannabelikemike 9 years, 11 months ago

Since you've gone 2 hours without winning a single hand I'd get it in and hope I win. If you had been able to take down even some small pots with steals or value bets then I'd be more inclined to fold here and pick on some weaker players. Momentum and respect is important in live tournaments and since you have none I think you should gamble for it.

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