6 left with 4k up top, is this a shove spot?
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6 left with 4k up top, is this a shove spot?
There's 6 people left, with only 1 short stack, blinds are 7k 14k. I have around 60bb. My honest thinking was, he can raise much weaker hands here, at best AK. For context, 3 hands prior to this hand, the Villain (SB) had pocket AA, and won a nice pot which made him chip leader.
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Not sure if you’re asking whether you can get away from this or not, which i think is no.
I think there is an interesting question here as to whether you should be building a 4b/f and 4b/c range. To be sure, KK is in the 4b/c range, but I’d be curious to hear what people have to say about just shoving versus building a 4b/c and 4b/f range. Seems like a decent spot to have a range that makes it 270k.
Definitely want to have a 4bet not all in range. As ICM becomes greater, bet sizing becomes smaller=more clicking. Tho I do actually think KK is one of the hands we want to shove. The reasoning is because the sb 3bet/5bet bluff range should only be suited wheel aces and when that is the case our 4bet nai range will be a direct response to that, meaning we use AA AKs even AKo better than KK bc when they 5bet jam A5s we want to have them dominated with AKs rather than 70/30 with KK.
Also, my guess is if we 4bet jam they prob close to pure call QQ but if not all in they start playing some folds and flats.
Never folding. If he has AA, good for you bud
I think making it 300k or so in this spot is the best way to play it. You’re never folding here regardless of ICM. If he has aces great if not you scoop the pot a ton and if you’re called youre in great shape to apply so much pressure after winning this hand. However I think 4bet calling it off is better. By just ripping it in you’re folding out all his junk and only getting calls from the tippy top of his range. I could even make an arugula t for just flatting his 3 bet. You’re keeping in every hand he has here. You can play cautiously post flop your hand is super under repped and if you manage to get away from it post flop your stack is still fine and the shorty most likely busts soon which adds to your bottom line.
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