$4 8max, quadzilla bvb

Posted by Ondra Machálek

Posted by Ondra Machálek posted in Low Stakes

Posted 12 years, 3 months ago

$4 8max, quadzilla bvb

CO: SAMUITEL: 14586
BN: Pneets: 131417
SB: Alficor1: 176314
BB: mkalti85: 99230
UTG: $lomaha$: 72272
LJ: triks76: 98751
HJ: bethboom: 124498

Villain seemed normal, aggro player.

Preflop (7500) (7 Players)

Alficor1 was dealt 9 Q
$lomaha$ folds, triks76 folds, bethboom folds, SAMUITEL folds, Pneets folds, Alficor1 raises to 13250, mkalti85 calls 8250

Flop (29000) Q Q Q (2 Players)

Alficor1 bets 13640, mkalti85 calls 13640

Pretty standart imo. I expect him to be floating here quite a bit because it's bvb and it's a pretty hard board to hit.

Turn (56280) Q Q Q 9 (2 Players)

Alficor1 checks, mkalti85 bets 20000, Alficor1 calls 20000

I'm overqualified as Tony G would say; I check and he bets, just like I wanted.

River (96280) Q Q Q 9 K (2 Players)

Alficor1 bets 128799, and is all in, mkalti85 folds

I don't expect him to bluff here after I call on the turn and also I don't see him value betting a 9x or worse. So I jam hoping he either hit the king which he's never gonna get away from anyway or that he herocalls me with like 9x or something like that. What do you think?

Final Pot

Alficor1 wins 98155

Also I think it's a better result for my image (not that it matters too much) if I jam and he folds his air than if we check it down and I showdown quads.

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AdamHendrix 12 years, 3 months ago

Nice play. But do you think clicking back the turn will induce? And also get all the money in with any full house he shows up with, without risking a scare card on the river that will hurt any value you may have in this hand?

Tam Tran 12 years, 3 months ago

It's these kind of flops that you are either going to get all your chips in or nothing at all. So if his aggro as you said you can either slow play it or you can seem to be the villain which i would rather take and bet those kind of flops because a majority of players would believe your getting out of line with them and attempting to steal the pot away from them and more inclined to get their chips in believing their good with A high or any pair. Since it was folded to you on the small blind and you raised which seemed pretty obvious that you were attempting to steal the pot and C-bet regardless of the flop. Pretty standard play either way i think because there isn't much you could do here and no complex decisions at all.

Steve Gross 12 years, 3 months ago

I think you played it great up til the river. I would check there as played. Shoving the river just allows him to get away from his bluffs and potentially fold a 9. If he has a king like you're hoping then you're getting it all anyway, and I think he bets a 9 quite often if checked to. And I wouldn't worry about image at all if it went check/check, in fact I think you could make the opposite argument that your checks may get more credit in future spots where you want the opponent to slow down, being perceived as a tricky/trappy player.

Ondra Machálek 12 years, 3 months ago

Wow, Steve Gross thinks I played a hand great! Writing that to my cv! :D
I actually disagree that he'd value bet a 9x in that spot, I think most people in aren't really able to make thin value bets (this one isn't maybe even thin though) at this stage of a tournament, because each pot is already so big and they really don't want to bet 35k and get raised. Also for that same reason I don't think he'd bluff me. But that's just my read on the dynamics in the late stage of a low buyin tournament.

About the image thing, on the other hand, if people see that I checked twice with quads, how much respect are they gonna give my bets in future if I don't even bet with quads?

newt 12 years, 3 months ago

I'm still checking the river. It's basically the same logic as the turn in my book

cold7betfold 12 years, 3 months ago

Checking the river seems like the best play.
Your read is that he can be aggro, so you have to give him a chance to hang himself.
Our hand looks alot like Ax/small pp and I think there is a good chance that he tries to bluff you off of it.
He has around half potsize left so he probably thinks he is "commited" to bluff.

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