33$ FO bluff catching.

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33$ FO bluff catching.

Hud is being dumb but basically this is how the hand went.

Were 40bb effective. at blinds 2k/4k. I open j10s bvb, he flats.

Flop: J66r I bet 11k into 24k. He checks.

Turn: 4c, I check, he fires 30k into 45k or so. I call

River: Kc, I check he fires 40k into 105k.
Board: Jc664cKc
I tank and call after a minute.

FWIW Hes running 17/13 over 95 hands. 4% 3b
He shows K4o obviously, and im there kinda feeling like an idiot cause I beat nothing he value bets here. But at the same time, im losing to AJ, 6x and Kj usually so I really thought he would have air a ton here. So yeah, should I just fold to this sizing and call bigger/smaller bets on river? Like if he polarizes I can snap him off usually but this sizing is kinda telling us to fold imo.
Thoughts on all streets appreciated.

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Kevin Brown 12 years, 3 months ago
Guessing from flop pot size and the hand he shows down that the first thing is size of the open...bvb 3x'ing makes a lot more sense to try and price someone out of taking flops in position against you.

Flop fine. Turn is tricky. I don't mind the check at all, but I think check/jam is a smarter line. Board still isn't the worst, but it's not the best to check/call and give him control on a river when a lot of the deck can potentially be bad(clubs/Q/K/A...and sometimes some straight draw combos now as well) and you let him play pretty perfectly on river against you. River is just an awful card and you need to find a fold there.
dantonius18 12 years, 3 months ago
Not sure I totally agree with the fact x.jam is better on the turn and to 3x bvb when weve got like 40bb. I know river is a fold, but when we do a range analysis, theres just not much he can have other than Kx floats that bomb the turn and town us on river, or 6x or AJ which he probably 3b atleast some % of the time. And as far as rivers go, I dont expect many people to barrel Ax here just because they can x.call a ton of rivers and arent really gonna get called by worse and bvb to just assume clubs are bad for my hand is ridiculous tbh.
Paul Senter 12 years, 3 months ago
Think you played it fine. Wouldn't fold river either. I think the reason for taking the bet flop and check/call turn line is to rep hands he could bet you off on the river. I also don't think he ever bets this small with a flush or a 6, so not much makes sense other than a rivered K which I'm not going to try and soul read and fold to... Also his turn bet makes me think hes just clicking buttons and not the kind of player to hero fold to.
Regarding preflop, I'm pretty happy getting peeled by a wide range with TJs 40x deep. Ok we may be firing once and giving up some % but far more good things can happen. A hand well played imo.
Michael Schlegel 12 years, 3 months ago
I like x/c the turn as you allow him to bet all of his air that he's floating with that otherwise would fold the turn and there aren't many hands that you'll get value from except maybe some PPs and stubborn Ahi.

River is pretty gross due to his sizing. I would think that if he had air he'd bet at least 1/2pot considering how big his turn bet was and if he had Jx he'd probably checking back a large % of time since it looks like he's sizing the turn to protect it and now wouldn't go for value once the K hits. I think I find a fold here, but in the future I wish people would leave out the results as I think it helps a lot with the discussion.

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