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$300 MTT Live Hand review

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$300 MTT Live Hand review

Structure is fast, with 30min levels and 15k starting stack. Fully aware that it's kind of a luckfest and not afraid to gamble at any stage of this tourney. The field is small about 120 players, lots of soft spots but solid regs in the field as well.

Blinds 300-600, ante 75. Stacks on table range from about 9k to 25k, I have about 13.5k to start hand.

Folded to me in LP I min open A8cc to 1200. Folded to BB who flats. I have him covered he starts hand with about 10k. This player was on the fishy side, limping often from various positions and flatting a subsequent raise. Also was heavily defending out of the blinds. I did see him shove on people a few times and donk lead out so I felt he was capable of making some moves.

Flop 9s 8s 6c

He checks to me, I fire 1800. I'm thinking I have the best hand and am likely to go with it. Such a draw heavy board and I'm beating any 8 in his hand that isn't two pair.

He C/R to about 4400. Leaving himself about 4k behind. Let's keep in mind I have him covered by about 3k.

If I flat I have about 7k left and he has 4k with 11-12k in the pot.

What do we do here? Will give results later. Thanks.


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MrSneeze 11 years ago

I'm bet/folding pretty much always here given vilain's description. Wouldn't like a check back so much.

Gfran192 11 years ago

 

Bit of a gross spot. I think his small blind
flatting range is going to crush that flop a good portion of time, and even
when you are ahead, he will mostly turn up with oodles of combo draws, which
will have a lot of equity against your hand.

That being said, shoving probably isn’t horrible. It’s
a fast paced tournament, you started the hand with only 22BB, and you have
already invested 30% of your stack, and you said you don’t mind gambling. + It
seems like you are giving up to much when he makes you fold the best hand.

I think the deciding factor in this is the quality
of the players in the tournament. If it’s a tough field, I think I would be more
likely to unhappily get it in, shut my eyes, and make a prayer to the all
mighty poker gods.

But since it is a soft field, folding and finding
a better spot is probably the better option.




ralphykid67 11 years ago

Thanks for the replies. I agree flatting isn't an option. Looks like a shove or fold spot. Also interesting thought about the quality of the field. This field was small and like I said a lot of regs. I'd rate this field towards the harder side based on the amount of regs I saw around the tables. regs that I know are strong that is.

I'll post results after one or two more replies. Or tomorrow if no one else replies lol

ralphykid67 11 years ago

RESULTS: I ended up jamming based on some of the factors already mentioned AND physical reads of this player at the moment. He snap calls and turns over 87 offsuit for a pair and an open ender.

Turn: 6

River: 7 (for a better two pair)

That's just how I run lately :/ 

Can't be too upset because I can expect to see bigger draws here or a 9 a lot of times. He was in the part of his range I was hoping for..



DanielBeringer 10 years, 11 months ago

Before I give my opinion on folding/shoving in this spot, I think you should look behind you in this hand. With the Villian (albeit maybe not the brightest one) only having 16BB to start the hand. Here are a few assumptions we can make about his preflop flatting range...

- QK+ are not in it (he's stacking off pre most of the time here)

- May be slow playing KK/AA by flatting knowing you will c-bet almost all flops and your range is pretty wide.

- Hands like 67,78,89,910,J10,JQ,Q10,Q9 and similar one gappers are also a big part of a fish's range here.

The villain is going to check virtually all of these hands most of the time, which includes hands that both crush is and those that do not have a huge chance to improve.

With this argument, I like checking this flop back and re-evaluating on turn by betting any time he checks and calling turns that don't make much sense to have helped him when sizing is right.


With all that said I would actually fold here given how often you run into 2 pair and the occasional str8.

luizinhomac 10 years, 11 months ago

hes supposed to go all in, hes got no perceived fold equity, this looks stronger than shoving .. most of the times when ppl are short and bet/raise leaving a couple bbs behind they are bluffing or semi-bluffing id just shove n hope to get called by FD, pair+gutshot/open ender etc

baetamedina 10 years, 11 months ago

I agree with almost everything Daniel said. I dont like the bet after flop at all. He likes this flop with many hands of his range and even when he doesn't hit anything, you're givving him a spot to take the pot.. Therefore, the best solution for me would be check after him. Since you no longer had this option, i would fold if this hand in most of the tournaments and ocasions, but with your read and willing to gamble, i would reraise all in as well. Sorry for english mistakes, best regards

ShwaubyBeau 10 years, 11 months ago

i think you have to have a plan when you bet the flop. i often check middle pair in this spot with your stack size because i think there are very few hands v calls with that we have beat (he just so happened to have one of them). as played, when v raises our flop bet i think flatting is the worst option, i like folding over shoving fwiw.

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