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$1650 Immokallee Main Event 22BB re-shove spot

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$1650 Immokallee Main Event 22BB re-shove spot

Hey Guys,

This is kind of a standard spot, but it's in a $1650 buy in live tournament which is the max I buy in out of pocket, so I wanna find out if it was an EV+ play or if I punted. Halfway through day 1 so far away from the money.

6 handed after some people busted
UTG folds
HJ (Villain) 60BB - opens to 2.67BB -- young kid, covers his mouth with a scarf, hat, huge headphones, definitely able to steal light, has momentum but hasn't really gotten crazy
CO 50BB folds -- older guy, a bit taggy but x-raised a couple of spots and barreled off post flop
BU (Hero) 22.33BB -- pretty good image, showed aces a couple of times, folded to some 3 bets, got a 4 bet jam through and squeezed 3 hrs earlier over an ep open and 3 flatters
SB 20BB -- older guy got hit by the deck early on and trippled his stack, and then had some big nonsensical bluffs to now be shortest
BB 60BB -- decent player, quite 3 bet happy but only in position so far, doesn't seem to over-defend, got a huge double off old guy prev orbit

I ended up jamming over the HJ open, got called and busted.

My questions are:

What hands should we 3 bet jam here?
What hands should HJ call off with when we Jam?

and even:

What's a good HJ opening range?

I ran some math on my own and it's coming up mostly a wash shoving with small pairs, and it obviously really depends on whether HJ opens 18%, 20% or more and what hands he chooses to call off.

Is 22BB just too much to shove here?

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plamen 9 years ago

Also, I am using pretty rudimentary methods to analyze this spot: calculator and a hand v range equity calculator. I am looking for better software online -- looking at HRC, CREV and a couple of others and wondering which of these will help me analyze a spot like this.

plamen 9 years ago

I downloaded Holdem Resources Calculator and was able to run my spot, it looks like the small pairs are a wash and in a tournament with a good structure like this are better off folded. Still would like to hear opinions if possible.

ralphykid67 9 years ago

Curious to know what your hand is. I don't think that 22bbs is too much to jam but I would more inclined to be jamming from the blinds rather than on the button. We are only picking up 5bbs or so and going from 22-27bbs isn't that big of a meaningful jump IMO. Ideally we will have a 3-betting range on the button against this player. I guess the question is then can we 3-bet with this stack size? Not everyone is comfortable with that and they prefer to jam most of their range here.

I like jamming in this spot sometimes just because I like to have a jamming range when I'm around this stack depth. That way I find some action when I do shove a premium hand because they see me as the guy who keeps jamming. Btw I play live primarily, for some perspective.

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