If you're not comfortable raise/calling, why not open shoving yourself?

In highstakes games i think we should take small EV edges w 20bb, and also in general think that people vastly overestimate their edge w 20bb stacks regardless. However in $215 games our edge is going to be minimal anyways, so if we get a maniac to jam w a very wide range to our button open, im kinda fistpumpcalling w 66 here. Yes we're flipping vs a ton, but if he's ripping Q6s, he's also ripping A2s, or other hands we have a significant equity edge against.

On a sidenote, if you are opening for 2.3x and folding, then don't open for 2.3x but 2x. It's just bad to give that extra .3x for free. If you have 66 OTB and you are 'worried' to get shoved on, shove yourself.

Most people who just double and show down a trash hand aren't going to jam lightly, as they'll "take a hand off" to enjoy their new found chips.

I think we can either r/f here or shove. I'm more inclined to r/f with our effective stack size.

I agree that villain is rarely going to make this play so wide 2 hands in a row, especially since the shove has fold out BB and the BTN raise, unless they're a total drooler.  It's just too likely we will be inclined to want to make a call even wider than normal.  

Even though this is a virtual equity flip against a wide 3bet shoving range, i've just always been in the camp that there's some merit to folding away the 2BB and getting in a steal or resteal to recover these lost BB and having fold equity rather than calling all-in at the bottom of my range.  I tend to only go with the bottom of my ranges with lower effective stacks (< 15BB) or close to blind increases for obvious reasons.

What's the preferred stack size here, Tom, for you to open shove?  <15bbs?  

One of very very few spots that I dont mind an open shove, even though your pretty much playing your hand face up. I would raise/call, I just dont think we can pass up on these small edges on these stacks against people who are reshipping correctly, but Im interested in everyones thoughts on these close/marginal spots. I think hes surely shipping 22-55, A2-A6 and its a nightmare if we are folding out our equity when hes shoving these, even though thats not a significant portion of his range and the rest of his range does well against us.

Call.  Your hand plays too good vs any reasonable range here.  Folding is only a good play if your opponent is terrible (nit).

This is a call vs. almost anyone.

I think open shove is the better play for OP with this hand and stack sizes.

Shove pf is fine, as played you have to call, its really not close at all

I think with 66 and not so close the bubble against an agro guy is better to raise call

i like shoving more i was watching koons vid a couple days ago and he just liked shoving more (at least in a final table) w icm....at this stage it can be argued that r/c is better, but folding is just not even in the discussion