BET SIZING (episode 12)

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BET SIZING (episode 12)

I didn't quite understand one thing in this video, so if you could please help me explain.
In the second example of the video he mentioned that we wanna bet 40-60%size medium strength hands for protection and at the same time still be betting big size with more polar range. Basically we would have 2 betting sizes, each for a different part of our betting range. Did I get that right?
Does this also apply for the flop c-betting strategy then? As I remember when we would bet polar, our medium strength hands would be simply check and not a smaller bet(for protection). So we would always have just one betting size (big or small, depending on the board) and the rest would be check.
So now I wonder if we should just always have 1 betting range like we learned with c-betting? should we have 2 betting ranges like it was shown in bet sizing video? or is it situation depending?
If someone could clarify this for me I would be very happy:)
thank you.

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Shaun Pauwels 4 years, 4 months ago

There's multiple things going on.
If we only use a single betsize on an earlier street we can still get a lot of money in on later streets. So only using one size on flop isn't a big issue if it would be better to use multiple sizings.
It's easier to play a single betsize strategy. As the 'mistake' isn't as significant we simplify. You'll read this often on forums with "I bet range 1/3rd" or something. Even coaching videos here you'll notice they simplify a bunch.
On top of that there's the thing that your opponent(s) on earlier streets have more of their range. But let's say you bet small on the flop and they call and we get to a turn. Your opponent suddenly doesn't have a bunch of strong hands, they would've raised our small bet on the flop. But he called so he doesn't have them or at a very reduced amount. This allows you to go for these different betsizes with different strengths.

My advice is though to use one betsize on flop. One betsize on turn and only do different betsizes on river. For now. Until you get a really good grasp on things. River needs multiple betsizes, lots of BB/100 to be gained.

Akame 4 years, 4 months ago

Thanks for explaining.

My advice is though to use one betsize on flop. One betsize on turn and only do different betsizes on river. For now. Until you get a really good grasp on things. River needs multiple betsizes, lots of BB/100 to be gained.

Great, will do that for now.

There's one more thing thing I'm having problem with.

When we're only betting polar our checking range are mostly medium strength hands and air. So if we check and he bets our range is protected, we can call him with good hands(sdv hands and some drawing hands that we didn't put in our bluffing range) and fold air. Putting some nut hands in our checking range to trap doesn't make sense imo, since our range is already protected.

But what to do with our small size betting range if we decide to have one?
If it's only made of medium strength hands then it is very exploitable. Villain can then always raise with stronger hands balanced with bluffs and fold the rest. In that case it would be always better to just check/call those hands.
So how should we protect that range? should we balance it with bluffs or some stronger/nut hands that can call him down?

Shaun Pauwels 4 years, 4 months ago

But what to do with our small size betting range if we decide to have one?
If it's only made of medium strength hands then it is very exploitable. Villain can then always raise with stronger hands balanced with bluffs and fold the rest. In that case it would be always better to just check/call those hands.
So how should we protect that range? should we balance it with bluffs or some stronger/nut hands that can call him down?

Not having strong hands isn't always a big issue. When you yourself know you only have these weaker showdown hands then that just means you have to call them when your opponent raises you.
But in general you want a small amount of strong hands in your small size to profit from your opponent attacking that small size more often.

If we look at BTN vs BB SRP A84r we notice that BTN is cbetting a very small size very often. Because a lot of 8x, 4x and other weaker hands are betting this small size and have a preference for that.
The bigger hands such as AK aren't going for huge bets either. We are betting too often with weaker hands that we need to add a lot of strong hands in there as well.
The earlier in the gametree (flop/turn/river) the more we need to do this as there's money left to play for.

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