Zoom winrate
Posted by Moonwalker
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Moonwalker
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Zoom winrate
Hi all,
As an amateur player who used to make decent money from soft live games in my hometown, I recently move aboard for studying and in the city I live there is no live poker rooms. Therefore I have to start grind online if I still wanna earn myself some pocket change from poker. But anyway it's still way better than serving dishes in a restaurant right? I chose zoom as my main game cuz it's easier to 4 tabling zoom on my laptop than opening 12 regualr tables. So I would like to learn something about winrate in zoom games from you guys who are more experienced players. From NL25, which IMO is the lowest level you can make some reasonable spare money, to NL500, which is the highest zoom games regularly running these days. What kind of winrate could be consider as standard for an average reg? And what kind of winrate could make you confident enough to move up? Is a 100k hand a big enough sample for players to evaluate their winrates? I am currently a 4 evbb winner in NL25 for about 100k hands but as I said before, I have earned a bit from the days I played live so bankroll won't be a problem when I consider if I should move up. But I would love to make sure that I am skilled enough before testing the water.
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This guy got 6bb/100 at 2.50/5.00 zoom. Your win rate at 25NL is very good! Especially since you're effective rake in bb is going to be larger in bb/100.
Keep up the good work!
That is quite impressive from what I have heard about zoom and win rates there! I can't check it on my own because I am currently in the U.S. but hope to one day move to Koopa City like Mush!
He may be the best player in the 500NL pool though.
At 25NL, you should be able to get the same BB/100 rate.
Hi mush,
Thx for your reply. As a matter of fact, I have read this whole thread before I posting here. His ev winrate is 5bb/100 actually. But first of all, I'd imagine this guy to be the very best player in the player pool. Secondly, it's been a year so the game should be tougher nowadays. Rake at NL25 is 8bb/100 which sucks. But it's nearly the same in NL50, therefore if I can't beat NL50 for at least 2bb+ it's meaningless to stand the higher variance. Is a 4bb/100 good enough winrate to consider moving up?
I'm probably not the best person to ask because I only play heads up no limit. I'd probably just move up when you have 50-60 buy ins for the next level.
Yea I am aware of that. I wish I could have your winrate at zoom games lol ;-).
This guys is Otb_Redbaron....
It's definatly posible to have 2 digits winrate on nl50 zoom over decant sample.
Seriously? How many regs are able to do that? IMO 8bb/100h rake make it mission impossible.
Is this for real? I can see maybe the best of the best getting this kind of WR but not for long as they would be moving up soon, I would think. (double digit @ nl50 zoom now I will be dreaming of Poker Stars again).
I think 2 digits winrate @ a regular table might be possible but in zoom games you have to share every fish with the whole player pool. Can't imagine someone who dominates that hard stays in that level.
If you have 50/60+ BIs, and a pretty decent WR over 100k hand sample @ NL25; you should definitely be moving up (and forward)..
You'll pay less rake and generate more vpps, which imo will compensate the WR drop.
Btw, there aren't many regs beating NL50 @ 5+bb/100 over a decent sample.
That's what I assumed...I always think that 5bb/100 was the limit @ any zoom games. Anyone with a better winrate than that would be moving up already. I didn't move up because as I said before, my "evbb" was 4bb+/100 but my actual winrate was only 2bb+/100 so Pokerstars screwed me pretty hard. In April I played only 28k hands yet ran 18.5 bi under ev. Can't believe it's a NLHE downswing, if I was playing PLO I probably gone broke already. Anyway thx for your reply
BTW I bought leak buster and it gives me an A grade regarding my whole NL25 sample. Does it mean something when I evaluate my poker skill?
Well, it says your stats are pretty solid in general. You should probably explore each identified leak more in depth. I've only ran the trial version.
Don't know if this helps u, but I usually see my winrate drop around 30% when I move up a limit. (I also play zoom)
Sure it does! If that is the case I would move up once Pokerstars stop screwing me. BTW mind reveal your own winrates?
around 4bb at nl50, at nl100 2.75bb
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