Back in the good ole days (before FT got shut down), I ran ~120 buyins under EV over about a 50k hand stretch of 25 Rush PLO, netting a mere 1 buyin profit. Not a downswing per se, but it's a long way below EV!

Not even close to a 100+. I'm currently at 44 buy ins below, but I think that is bad enough. Hope it'll swing back around. I'm just dreaming of the day where I go above the EV-line. It's kind of like I am running like Arsenal when I comes to penalty-kicks. I'm not getting what I should and I would LOVE to run like Liverpool, right Tom? :P 

I'm just messing with you. :D If anyone deserves a PRL-title it is Gerrard. Even though I'm not supporting Liverpool you can have nothing but respect for the guy. So congratulations on what should be a sure thing once you take out Chelsea at Anfield today.

Ouch... If Liverpool throw it this year it's going to be so hard for them to get this close again with Manchester United, Man City and Chelsea - no doubt all spending silly amounts of money in the Summer.

Savage run guys :/ - PLO players must have some real mental toughness to take that sort of run and not tilt hard.

I'm currently about 150 buy ins bellow EV over the last 2.5 years. 

Sometimes I think someone in the sky doesn't want me playing poker..

It's amazing to hear how bad you can run at any given time.  I think that's the biggest misconception of inspiring poker players is that if your good you will crush your opponents 90% of the time.   In fact if you win around 55% of your sessions your probably beating the game pretty good.  I dread the time when I run this bad bc the worst I have ever ran was around 30BI below EV.   I'm such a noon I guess.

Graph of April, game is NL25 zoom

Didn't play much due to mid-term exams. Got straight As so good run at exams. But hell I ran like shit in poker. 28k hands and ran 18.5 bi under ev. Miss those days I played live in my homeland China and never had a losing month or even a losing streak in 2 years. btw anyone can offer me some help regarding my other thread? http://www.runitonce.com/chatter/zoom-winrate/ Appreciate any useful information

Just checked, 83 buyins under EV from 1.1.2013 to this date, all holdem and mostly 6max. Good thing is that Ive ran better in bigger stakes, so not too much under in terms of $.

Still shows that variance can be very hard at times.

24 buyins bellow ev in 1700 hands, last 2 days, FUCK PLO AND FUCK GOD

ran 7k below ev today. Its okay i guess its just money

probs like $80k+ in mid+stake online MTT's.  Got to love soul crushing donkaments :D :D

i actually think winamax is rigged favouring fish or against english players,,,,,

only kidding that was a glitch real graph below, anyone else had insane bad runs on winamax ir has everyone seen a run like this? i found the support very bias to there french players so was scared they favoured there own with the software too....

-1800bb under EV over 59,500 hands

Im running 130 buy-ins below EV over 190k hands...
Ok, my EV winrate is only 2.5bb/100h.
Running bad has influence on the game and also I had to find another job, because I needed money:) So more than 100k of these hands was I only invested 50% of the time in the game.
We all know that you have to be in the game 200% to be really profitable.
Only 55k€ below EV, no biggies :)
And I'm 100% that I'm better than 2.5bb/100h. Ofc RB included then I'm at 8.5bb/100h or sth.
Its just, in EV calc is not included when they have top set 4 times in a row in a 4bet pot...
And yeah, it smoothnes out in a long run in theory. Well, not excatly in this particular pratice case.

But still, running this bad gave me motivation to become better. And also, my mental game is now like, really, I'm a fuckin superman now with mental game. To go through this kind of a downswing and become stronger. Last couple of months, I have like EV 10bb/100h or a little more. And white magic is also important. When you are still and clear, you can soulread people over the internet.
To go though this and not blow up. Downswing is lasting 15 months now... Day after day , hand after hand, you lose allins:) Its crazy. There were 3 occasions when they had 1 out in all the 190k hands. And they hit the 1 outer 3 out of 3 times from turn to river.
Now, I feel so alive and good actually. I can play so better. So I was saying to go through this and not blow up, sometimes just makes me wanna cry of acomplishment and of a mentally stronger person that I have become. Also much better player than I was...
So everything that happens to you, if its bad, its oppurtunity to grow. To evolve, to become unbreakable and your happines not being influenced on outer events...

nice job

PLO is a helluva drug

Thats mine. When you run like that you feel like you get raised every 3bet pot cbet.

At good old Full Tilt, played PLO25 for one evening. EV winnings +1$, real winnings -$1000. That was a nasty few hour session.

Last year I had a project of playing PLO2 among normal games. I had a feeling that I haven't won many flips, and when I checked the Tracker it was 60 buyins under EV in about 10K hands or so. My feeling was quite correct. :D

When you guys are running that bad, what motivates you to keep playing? You're only losing money. How can you continue to play when it's only costing you $?

Jesus, though guys - 100+ BI's below EV? That's just absurd. These are huge sample sizes, too. I just don't understand how someone's supposed to win if they run that bad and then inevitably, I wonder what we're playing for.

porshy And yet you feel like it's still worth it to continue play? Why - what you should be able to achieve sometime down the line? Not a loaded question - seeing some of these bad runs (massive understatement, ofc) has me feeling less depleted by my own. I've never run anywhere near that bad.

I guess the simple answer is that you enjoy playing. This is where I started out again 2 months ago and as stated - I won several hundred dollars immediately at no higher than 20nl. Hit 25nl and 50nl and I got a very rude awakening regarding BRM and variance. Move back down to 10nl and 20nl and the wins just don't feel the same. I would imagine I'm not the first to walk this same path. After reading these posts, working with variance calculators, and confronting some extremely difficult off the felt spots in the last 24-48 hours, I feel different. One of my favorite movies for years has been "The Hustler". I saw that again this morning before I even took the beats I posted about. With @Kalupso talking about self destruction and playing about 800 hands so far with a just play mentality again, I feel much better.

I'm not greedy and selfish until it really comes down to it. Not when there's 500 "widgets" in the room but when it gets down to 1 valuable one and 3 parties feel entitled, I don't think you'll ever find more entitlement than you do out of me. I don't really care what I have to do, I'll do it to get that 1. I don't especially like this about myself, at all, but it is me. I've changed a ton of things in my mind and heart over the years but this one, I'll never change. I don't like seeing other people succeed. I am seeing how much of a leak it is to let emotions from that selfish competitiveness factor into decision making and I'm also seeing from what you're posting and my own experience at the tables that it's ok to lose. It doesn't mean you're a failure. Not playing, or not playing with a focused, dedicated mind is failure. Losing with 80% equity is not.

As you see - I'm still working.

porshy , you are my hero! :)

have you ever thought it might be rigged somehow?

if so, how did you got rid of that thought?