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My suggestion would be to start using a system where the top 5 is still rewarded, but only likes from coaches count. That would eliminate the possibility of someone being a like whore for monthly elite and the best contributors would still get that free elite, even more accurately than previously. It would be up to coaches or whoever gives these likes to decide who and what comments are worth these points. That would require somewhat active browsing by some coaches or moderators tho.

All-time top 5 getting free elite seems fine to me as a system.

My suggestion would be to start using a system where the top 5 is still rewarded, but only likes from coaches count

I don't think that is good, because as you already said it would require someone to browse and read the forum's posts. And also, a user is good or not for the forum based on the contributions he makes to others players, so the coaches doesn't have too much to do with that, since they are not using these forums themselves, for the most part. I believe just filtering the likes is already a satisfactory solution. I do believe though that this likes system is not the best to figure out who is contributing more or not. The number of posts and replies should be taken into account as well, in my opinion. The most active users are the ones who make this forum great, and a user is active or not based on the frequency with he makes or answers posts.

Putting a cap on the amount of daily likes one user can give will solve most of the "boosting" issues, and will perhaps make users prioritize to give likes to high quality posts. The cap doesn't even need to be that low for it to have a significant effect.

Poker is not all about strategy, it is about balance too. Smiling and creating a positive atmosphere in the forums is great for the community. That is contributing. The competitive part is not about contributing strategy, it is about 'contributing' to the forums, that is much more than just strategy.

I am sorry seven, but I totally disagree with you. As I said, I don't think this type of post should not take place here, I just said that it is not fair that they are taken into account in a competition about contribution to this forum. This is a poker forum. Players come to run it once, and they buy subscriptions to learn and discuss about poker, not to laugh about giffs and jokes. You want to post something that its completely unrelated to poker? Ok, fine. But such a post should not be taken into account in a competition about contribution.

That is fine. We can agree to disagree. Can we still be friends? :)

Of course! We live in a world where having different opinions is often taken as a bad thing, but it is what pushes us forward.

I think this is a horrible idea, because players trying to learn won't get as many likes as players who already have knowledge. Also, coaches are rarely active in the forums and this de-incentivizes people from regularly contributing. Sorry Samu, but I am not on board with this.

Players who are trying to learn aren't getting as many likes now. And a criteria for giving a like doesn't always have to be based on how good the poster is in poker. It can be about other things too. I never said that only the best technical comments would get the likes. And I also said that it would require some activity from coaches, my idea won't work without them being active, obviously.

Comes with the stardom

Cap games are wack :P

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opps fogot poker content!!!
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DK out

u r a joke ribeiro , can i sue u for ur stupidity? cuz each time i see any brain output from u it makes me want to jump of bridge. u dangerus to mai lyf bruh.

instead of tldr u could highlight again those 100+ likes from krckampolo?

and y u no specify which member? Lemme call a sherlog (MMAsherlog?) to find out

As you can all see, he revealed himself. I've never insulted him in my life and he insistis with such behaviour. Seems like an envious child. And he says I'm a joke...this forum is great, but there are some people trying to make it a little worse.

As you can all see, he revealed himself.

no shit sherlog

I've never insulted him in my life

u bet u did

and he insistis with such behaviour.

u deserve it bruh

Seems like an envious child.

thank u old man, want to be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1TcDHrkQYg

And he says I'm a joke...

u iz bruh

this forum is great, but there are some people trying to make it a little worse.

mb first look at urself then others?

Thank you!

I wasn't suggesting setting a cap on maximum likes one user can receive and I agree that should remain uncapped.

What I am suggesting is limiting the number of likes one user can give within a time frame. This will remove the ability for users to give 40+ likes to a single user in one hour (this actually happened last month) and disincentivizes users from liking low-effort posts because they can only give a limited amount of likes.

P.S. I have no idea if this would be an improvement in any way or if it's worth using RiO's resources on.

But I strongly believe that an effective cap on the number of likes that one can get in a day will strongly disincentivize members to put in a ton of work in their strategy posts. Whereas low-effort posts, such as GIFs, are not disincentivized since they are already effective at a low number of likes.

I'm with GT here

I'm with GT here

We are talking about different things.

We are talking about different things.

I don't think capping the number of likes one can give will create a sense of responsability in a given person. He/She might still want to give away likes to non strategy posts...how is that gonna solve the problem?

I don't know what it will do, but it will give any one individual user less power to influence the system. A cap of 10 likes a day seems sufficient to make an effect.

Now I really think we are talking about different things. While you are trying to come up with something to avoid cheating or "like collusion", I'm trying to figure out how to avoid the unfairness of real contribution competing with things other than real contribution.

I wouldn't put a cap on the amount of likes one can GET, but to the amount of likes one can GIVE.

It just doesn't seem like a place I want to be posting if all I am doing is contributing strategy.

Well, you probably should search for something other than a poker forum then. Because it seems to me that a poker forum is about poker. But again, I'm fine with the non strategy posts! I want you to understand that. I just don't think its fair that they compete at the same level with poker related posts. Because the MAIN contribution to a poker forum is a poker related post!

This goes for any type of social media - I go online to be apart of the community. That means contribute in all types of ways. Having fun is part of the experience. And how do people tell you they enjoy your contribution to the community? They like your post. I am not just here for the strategy, I am here for the community

Well, I think you are an exception because I believe people in general, including me, are here because of poker strategy.

I'm sorry man but what RiO admins will do about this is up to them. I can not stay quiet when I'm accused of something I didn't do, while the accuser takes advantage of an unfairness on the competition he claims I'm a cheater on.

Better off PMing a staff member than airing it out here though

I did here because my main complaint should be discussed amongst the users, since its a subject of their best interest and other might feel the injustice in the system, or at least the poor use of it by many users, the same way I do.

What do you have to say about my real concern? As I said, my main complaint is about how unfair I find that non poker talks compete at the same level with poker strategy posts/replies.

Seven, I don't need you to emphasize what Mikey said, but thanks. I figured that he has already answered to part of the problem here, so he might as well answer to the rest of it here, so that everyone can see what the RiO admins think about this. If this is a subject that doesn't interest you, you don't have to read or comment, just unsubscribe from the thread.

I think you guys/gals do a great job!!!
Personally I would like to take a moment to give thanks again!!

NO LICK NON STRAT :P

Thanks for all the help!

cant you just be a part of this community without being rewarded for shitposting?

Thats exactly my point, thank you for understanding.

I'll send an e-mail regarding this topic and wait for a response, since no one from RIO administration has decided to say anything about this. The reply will be posted back here.

Looks like two top 5 lists

DK, you also don't seem to understand what is being talked about here. I made a last post about it below. Please, read it carefuly. You know the accuser is not you, so there is no need to defend yourself.

No, i was writing about top10 list and actually thinking fe. about Gaucan, because he's best example for not contributing anything meaningful (at least by my standards) to community. I belive he was there with like 30 points in 3rd may while not posting a single post in strategy, which was ridiculous.

Maybe if you guys have a problem with a particular person you should
send them a pm or something and address it like a man instead of
running around like school boys sending tattle tale emails, and crying
in a thread that RIO puts out to thank the top members.

But its not about person, its about point system! I cant even say that current system allows for 'abusing', because getting karma for gifs etc. isnt really even abusing right now, so im not really blaming anyone for it.

This whole thing started as Saul upset about a accusation, and now it
is a witch hunt for a mysterious RIO user that doesn't post poker
strat and post junk all day long.

You are wrong. It's not about persons, you are getting way too personal with it. You and 678. I wouldnt care less about you two being at top because its clear that you are contributing to the community in very good way.

Right now i dont even care about Gaucan after he's been warned/banned or something like this, its about system that is rewarding not what's really important at pokersite.

And I dont know why you should even complain. you rarely post in the forums

He has the right to complain about what he wants, being a member of this forum just like you are. Being an active user doesn't give anyone privilleges of treatment.

I already mention the problem of this ranking maybe 2 years ago.
I gave up with trying to participate because of lack of interaction, answers.

you can't say anything about my right to give my thought there. I'm a member like you and I think I joined RIO in 2013 so I think I'm a regular customer that can write what I think. and what I think is this ranking doesn't help the content of RIO forum.

I vote for some challenge post of the month, COTW, COTM type of stuff and likes not given by others users but only be reward by pro who feel that people makes video discussion a real interaction or thread as well. each hand post has to be rewarded as well and answers to it even more.

not giving any likes when you just say thanks for vids to a pro as well
and count the like given by RIO pro and staff

Definitely. But that still wouldn't solve the problem, in my opinion. I could just stay posting, as I saw people calling it, "low-effort" posts, and still get rewarded the same way as other posts.

Ah yes, I guess I made the assumption that pros would mainly give their 5 points to solid strategy posts, but you're right that this wouldn't automatically be the case.

I made the assumption that pros would mainly give their 5 points to solid strategy posts

This assumption is correct. My point is that the current problem would still exist, unless you are suggesting that the pros would be the only ones eligible to give likes. Then, I believe the problem would be erradicated, but that would require pros to be very active in the forums, which I don't think its possible.

I'm not pointing my fnger to anyone. I'm not insulting anyone. I'm not calling anyone for their names. I'm just pointing out my opinion about an unfairness on the montlhy competition for free elite membership on this forum.

I was a little confused as well, im not going to lie.