Softest Game Types
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Softest Game Types
Part 2; where do you see the future of poker going? for me personally i see online poker cash games becoming almost unprofitable in the next 10 years, but thats just me....
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With part 2 of your question, I happen to think poker is on a small upswing at the moment. 3 states, (Nevada, Delaware, and New Jersey), have legalized online poker, which is starting to create a domino effect with all of the other states in the US. When online poker is legalized in the US entirely, (and I happen to think it will be fully legalized by the end of this year or at the latest, early next year), it's going to create a whole new generation of players, which can only be a plus for the game itself. Tourneys are still big in poker, and each year more people are signing up for them. An example would be the World Series Of Poker. The prize pool and amount of players increase each year.
Put it this way, there will always be fish in this game. Yes, there's an enormous amount of poker information and strategy tips these days with books, forums, and communities, but how many people out there do you really think fully surround themselves with poker, and take in everything they can to fully get better and to be a winning player? My guess is, probably not that many because most of the time people are lazy and they would rather play recreational for a short-term win rather than be a solid player and establish long-term profits.
Poker will continue to grow, and when the online boom happens once again, be aware of it. Practice and craft your skills in the live games now, because when the online games come back, there's gonna be a ton of terrible players out there ready to deposit money. Pick em' out, and make a killing off of them.
Best of luck to you, and take care.
I just think the holier than thou Tea Party idiots in Congress will prevent any move on legalising poker....
As far as becoming unprofitable in the future, it seems rather straight forward, as each game becomes more and more 'solved', and the general level of players increases, then the gap between players just learning and the players who 'know' what the're doing increases, this in time will lead to the availability of fish drying up.....right now if someone said you could learn chess and play that for money not many people would take it, as its a solved game, with players who have a answer for everything, eventually....
i feel that online poker more than live, will fall under this trap, once its known as a game of skill and not luck then there's no point in playing, unless you can find someone worse than you, as far as which game maybe not the high high stakes games, but i can see any other game avoiding this trap...as say mid level stakes becomes to hard then the players will move lower hoping to fond 'fish', but then that will end up the same and so on and so on...until you have players that are by today's standards great sitting at micro stakes, its already happening, for every pro you can find, i bet you they know 20 players that 5 years ago were crushing at least 10/20 stakes but are now only grinding out online at 1/2 or 2/4
i hope you check this so we can talk this out, i wont wait so long without checking it next time....
The effect on players who want to make a profit is that they need to constantly be learning. Either learning their current game better, or learning new games, or both. This is nothing new though, it may be happening faster now than before but it's not new. The players who stop learning will more quickly turn into losing players, but this is kinda natural for anything in life that has any sort of progression to it. Which most things have.
What could kill poker is if the world somehow got together and regulated it away. Doesn't look like that is happening. The world could also suddenly start finding poker or "gambling" in general very uninteresting, but I don't see that happening either. If anything, we're moving more and more towards simulations and games, augmented reality and things. It's more likely that games will be even more integrated in people's lives in the future.
As for the future of Hold'em specifically, who knows? It already seems hard to make a profit in NLHE cash games, though rake has a lot of impact on that. Let's say rake was lowered by 20% and games would suddenly be very profitable again. (low-mid stakes)
I'm finding NLHE MTT's to still have very good value. PLO also has good value, both cash and tournaments. Other games I don't play so I don't know.
... Jo your right when you say people need to learn/improve or they lose, but thats just it, that's why at some point, the games will become unprofitable, there is a limit to what people can learn and process, and when we reach that point, then the game becomes a game of just moving chips across a table and paying some site a rake. i dont know though, its a combination of these two things where i feel that poker unless somthing changes then yeah they are heading down the same road as chess,
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