So much frustration after this downswing

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So much frustration after this downswing

I am suffering from a downswing and it's really messing with me. Your typical KK cracked by AK or AA cracked by some other joke hand.

Lately though my downswing is a bit more subtle. It's where you estimate someone's range to be A-D (with later letters to be stronger hands) and you hold C. You still consider v-betting to be an overall profitable play but when they call it's fucking D every time. It's messing with my hand reading abilities and I know I've made a lot of money playing poker (about 10k lifetime) so I can't be a complete retard.

Or I'll have someone's range capped quite accurately. Bet the turn with flush draw, river bonks. I bet the river big knowing his capped range can't call here and he insta-calls the river with a backdoor two pair 79o, in a pot with KQ729cc board. Fuck all.

Or I'll make a play knowing some x% of time it's gonna be unsuccessful (e.g., 4 bet bluff, or 5 bet shove with 88 against light 4 bettor and running against AA).

I don't know what the fuck to do. I've been watching videos and I know I've become a better player after watching them. But still I just cannot break this fucking cycle.

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So_Nitty 9 years, 6 months ago

I just went through a "mini-cycle" version of this which left me massively tilted and spewing like a monkey. If you had asked me a month ago I would have told you that I never really tilt....I understand variance and just continue to make good decisions ha ha but I got hit with a series of massive coolers followed by thousands of hands that unfolded much the way that you've described. It leaves you questioning your decision making and with an unquestionably bad attitude. You have to keep playing positively or take a break.

Try to review some hands with a friend or a coach bc sometimes you may be repeating mistakes in common situations or otherwise get some positive reinforcement and stay focused on making good decisions and playing aggressively. A positive attitude is everything and you have to do something to restore that.

ICheatSoWhat 9 years, 6 months ago

Thanks for the comment. Yeah, I've taken a few steps back and decided to play a few hands/spots a bit nittier to get a bit lower variance. For example, I'm choosing to probably forego a few slightly +EV spots against some bad players in exchange for being a bit more patient and getting it in against them in a very +EV spot (e.g., not 3 bet squeezing with 99 with 4 handed pre-flop and choosing instead to just flat to set mine, choosing not to vbet thinly on rivers, etc.)

Samu Patronen 9 years, 6 months ago

You gotta realize that poker is a game of luck and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. We all know this, but on a deeper level we tend to resist this idea. You have to fully accept the fact that you will lose some hands and win some hands, all you can do is increase your expected value. Stop comparing winning and losing and start looking at these objectively. Replace thoughts like "I should be winning" and "bad players/worse equity hands don't deserve to win" with "every player wins and loses sometimes" and "all I can do is to increase my EV and enjoy playing".

You should also make sure that losing your entire bankroll would not have a huge impact in your overall life. Takes a lot of stress out of playing poker and facing downswings.

ICheatSoWhat 9 years, 6 months ago

Thanks for the advice. Yeah, I'm starting to distance myself from the results of the hand and ask myself at least 2 important questions:

1) Why am I deciding to take this action?
2) Is this action going to be a part of an overall profitable strategy given other players' tendencies?

Doing this before even seeing what cards hit or what the opponent's actual cards are helps the tilting and encourages me that I'm playing +EV.

David Zforlife12 9 years, 4 months ago

I think restoring that feeling of being a "winner" is so vital. I play live when I feel like I'm tilting and I'm shown numerous examples in that session the progress I've made. It really reinforces that I'm heading in a positive direction. This is soft competition but the feeling is just the same. I reinforce what I know, realize how much of an edge I have. Often times online, when feeling negative you are playing poorly times x amount of tables. It can be costly, slow down, take a break and look at how far you've come.

Tommy Angelo 9 years, 4 months ago

One time I lost 19 sessions in a row. That's a whole month of losing every day. This was playing live only, playing $20/40 limit only. On day 20 I was playing $3/6, waiting for a seat in $20/40 as usual, and when they called my name for my $20/40 seat, I was up about 100 bucks at $3/6, and I said no to $20/40 and went home, a winner.

Obviously I've had many shorter range losing streaks, two weeks or so, that were still devastating and had me wondering how I ever won. I went through it enough times that eventually I put top priority on just booking a win or two. Didn't matter how small. Just going home plus. That was all my mind really needed or wanted. Some kind of forward motion rather than back. Some validation that I was still legit.

The way I sum that up now into advice is to suggest that when you have no confidence and you are funking bad, take a couple days off, and then go find the softest low-stakes batch of pansies and play your nittiest game and book a few wins somehow someway.

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tesla79 9 years, 4 months ago

How long is that? How many hands?
Actually, I have a bad year! I earned about the 1/5 of my last year's profit.
Than I checked my fellow countryman's blog. /Sipinho13/ Doo, I noticed this guy has several 150k breakeven streches. Ishter11 also has. They are great winners!
So, yeah. Sometimes variance can make pretty weird things.

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