I'm not really sure if this is the best place to post this but I figured I'd give it a try. Since Black Friday, like most others, I'm forced to play live poker. I know this site is primarily focused on online poker but I would really like to see some sort of "Philosophy" series about live NL deepstack play if possible(200-500bb). I feel myself lost in a lot of situations because I am so used to the 100-150bb style of play. Since moving to Vegas a year ago I've noticed the immense value of playing 300+bb especially when a fish is playing that deep. I have definitely made some good adjustments but I'm well aware that I have great room for improvement. Throughout all of the training sites I haven't seen much information about this. Thoughts? Would others like to see this as well?
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Mikey Stotz12 years, 2 months agoHey Matt - are you specifically requesting Phil to make this sort of video or any coach? I think it might be a good topic for Lefort to cover in an upcoming video since many of his videos are theory based already.
I definitely agree that there are some serious differences between the two. I was used to 100BB PLO games and recently played in some 5/5/10 live games where the average stack was around $7,500.
ChipNinja12 years, 2 months agoWhichever coach you think has the most experience playing in these types of games and would be able to explain concepts the best works for me, thanks! :)
Schu12 years, 2 months agohey matt... I am full time in vegas also and I think the situation of DS versus 100bb online is more a function of the differences between the styles of play... Online versus Live, and less to do with Buy in amounts.
Certainly BI levels can influence play (both live and online) if you happen to be short or if you are extremely deep rolled, but I dont think it's what you are experiencing. Live play is just different and you need to adjust to it accordingly depending on what you are experiencing, specially at lower BB levels. mathematical rules of engagement don't really apply as stringently in live play as they do online as players regularly toss math out the window in favor of the possibility of positive variance and you need to accept that and try and cut it down as much as possible.
if I had to describe the difference between the two , I might call Online play surgical... with a sharp precise scalpel... I would describe live play as being a bit more like trying to do surgery with a steak knife, sometime even like trying to do surgery with a hammer and chisel although hopefully it's not quite that bad.
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I definitely agree that there are some serious differences between the two. I was used to 100BB PLO games and recently played in some 5/5/10 live games where the average stack was around $7,500.
Certainly BI levels can influence play (both live and online) if you happen to be short or if you are extremely deep rolled, but I dont think it's what you are experiencing. Live play is just different and you need to adjust to it accordingly depending on what you are experiencing, specially at lower BB levels. mathematical rules of engagement don't really apply as stringently in live play as they do online as players regularly toss math out the window in favor of the possibility of positive variance and you need to accept that and try and cut it down as much as possible.
if I had to describe the difference between the two , I might call Online play surgical... with a sharp precise scalpel... I would describe live play as being a bit more like trying to do surgery with a steak knife, sometime even like trying to do surgery with a hammer and chisel although hopefully it's not quite that bad.
Any progress on something like this? Just wanted to make sure I didn't overlook it.
Top secret for now but all I can say is you guys are REALLY going to like the next pro we announce. :D
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