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Math - Key Concept or Overinflated Reliance...

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Math - Key Concept or Overinflated Reliance...

Hi guys,

As this and my previous posts narrate, I am pretty new to the game/world of poker. I just wanted to hear everyone's thoughts on the mathemtics behind poker...

How important is it? How much does it influence your decision (I appreciate this is situation dependant)? Due to its ability to improve player's poker ability, where can you learn the maths? Are there specific books? Is there software out there to teach? Is there an inet site to aid...

I can envisage the world gasping at the line "Math - Ket Concept or Overinflated Reliance"...But please give me your thoughts and answers, as I want to install as much information as neceassary on ym on-board computer to help me beat the games out there...

Thank you for your help/contribution/advice a ALWAYS! Real good of anyone to take the time to help a fellow player.

Harv3yJnr

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WM2K 12 years ago
Well some of the math obviously matters. Being able to estimate you odds is clearly important for any gambling.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/061539745X/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link

I ve never read this but this seems like a good overview of the basic math that is essential.

Once you ve played a lot and have some experience I d check out mathematics of poker (http://www.amazon.com/The-Mathematics-Poker-Bill-Chen/dp/1886070253/ref=rec_dp_1). Its a bit of a classic but its heavy and not what you need starting out. It is interesting and will enlighten you to how to think about the game at a much deeper level from a mathematical perspective.
ZenFish 12 years ago
Strong math skills make it easier to learn advanced poker concepts, but I'd say logic >> math when it comes to playing poker. Quick logical thinking is what you need most at the table.

Sophisticated math-based thinking works best when you're learning new concepts away from the table. Playing poker is mostly about quickly and correctly executing the strategies you have learned.
Harv3yJnr 12 years ago
That was my line of thought tbh - maths has the element of importance to decision making, but in the real-time process of a poker hand, your logical thought process will take greater precedence than your math-based influence...TY Zen.
Thomas Luechtefeld 12 years ago
logic >> math. Understanding the math is important if you're building a bot where you can leverage a ridiculously powerful computer.

Using anything but extremely basic math while actually playing will more likely mess you up than help you. I even see people using the math all wrong when analyzing hands away from the table all the time. The popular concepts of how to apply GTO are usually laughably incorrect.

This is coming from a person who uses a lot of math.
computerscreen 12 years ago
Math is a representation of the poker, it is not the real thing. We should be less interested in the number 17.9% and more interested in the hands that number represents. That said the hands themselves are not really the numbers on the cards, but a representation of probability. In that sense if you are asking if poker is a game of people rather than a game of cards, then you should inquire into this question very deeply. We don't need deep math skills but we need a deep understanding of the game and what the math and cards represent.

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