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Marinelli Poker Journal: Making Ten Million

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Marinelli Poker Journal: Making Ten Million

My name is Matt Marinelli. I've made over $3 million playing online cash games, and my goal is to hit $10 million in profit. I joined a CFP in 2018, started at 100NL, and never looked back.

I previously wrote a blog here called Making a Million and followed through on that goal. When it was done, I asked the mods to remove it—but to my surprise, people actually cared. I kept getting DMs asking where it went, if they could get a copy, why I deleted it, etc.

So, fuck it.

I'm back.

This blog will revolve around a consistent motif: technē. Technē is a Greek word meaning an art, craft, or skill learned and mastered through practice rather than just theoretical understanding. It’s the combination of knowledge and skill forged from years of disciplined study and experience in the pursuit of mastery.

Within this framework, I approach poker like a dedicated craftsman. The outcome relies on the execution of my play, but that play is honed by thousands of hours of blood, sweat, and tears. I don't rely on talent. Honestly, I don’t even know if I’m talented at poker—because I refuse to find out.

In contrast, many people treat poker like a game. They sign on, play, review the most tilting hands, and try again tomorrow. While that has an appeal because poker is a game and it can be fun, it’s also my career and I intend to treat myself with more respect than that. Ultimately, if some 50nl reg with a dream reads this blog and decides to adopt this mindset, taking my approach as a source of inspiration, then sharing these things will be worthwhile to me.

Lifetime Results:

I didn’t get to keep all of it because I was staked to start my career / sold some action at times, but I can’t complain. This is how I will account for the challenge #’s. (”Other” is from hand histories that were lost in a PC crash. I know how much $ was missing though, so I include it here to keep full account)

Challenge Start: $3,002,280 / $10,000,000

Follow me: https://x.com/MatthewMarinel5

This Blog is Long, Here's Quick Links to Top Posts:

Study Process - Full Routine Breakdown
Mindset Advice for SSNL - Self Belief
Why People Read Poker Blogs
Should you join a CFP?
Talent vs Hard Work

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Entro789 2 months ago

Lets gooo! Pumped for this!

1) On that techne matter, what is your studying schedule looking like on a weekly basis? How many hours have you been studying and how have you been studying recently?

2) With all those great results on multiple sites, have you been able to play well across multiple of them at the same time? I tried playing on Ignition and ACR at the same time but failed miserably due to the differences in software and timebank etc. And on clubWPTGold it seems even harder to do so given their software so far.

IAmNeo 2 months ago

1) The best times to play poker for me are around 6pm-1am, so I formulate my schedule around that. I spend around 60 minutes mid-day doing studies or drills, play for the night, and spend around 30 minutes reviewing my hands.

It's important for me to leave time in the morning to myself, otherwise I will get burnt out, so I don't do anything of significance with poker for the first 3 hours of the day. A big mistake I've made in the past is burning the candle at both ends, either with checking lobbies during the day, or playing poker at night and scheduling coaching calls when I wake up, and so I needed to give myself more room to breathe at the sake of short term "efficiency".

2) I think it can be very frustrating to manage multiple lobbies at once, and I like 2 at most. When I have 3+ lobbies open, I tend to experience more decision fatigue and deal with context switching.

Context switching is sort've like a micro-fatigue from things like moving from an ACR table to a Coin Poker table, or moving your eyes to check the lobby etc. It's a lot easier if every table is the same site and format because your brain doesn't have to "reset" as much as you fluidly move from table to table.

At HSNL, it becomes unreasonable to single site, so you deal with it basically, but I tend to prioritize simplifying the experience of playing OVER having money on every single site I could, checking every lobby etc. I do my best when I can set my tables into place and basically just grind.

RunItTw1ce 2 months ago

Huge fan! I am one of the people who really wanted your journal to not be deleted. I always reference your MOP pod to give people motivation to work hard and not rely on experience and talent. Glad you're back!!!

Does context switching and getting fatigued occur when you have other things open such as youtube or social media?

Can you walk us through the first three hours of your day? Are you working out? Running errands? Taking care of the house?

I often burn the candle at both ends with poker from morning to night. Lack of discipline with trying to keep up with all the content. Do you set alarms to stop studying even if you haven't figured out the answer yet or do you go down the rabbit hole for 3-4 hours until you are satisfied with your study?

IAmNeo a month ago

Context switching would occur if you have other things open and are constantly checking it. Ideally, you'd just have your music on in the background and not need to look at it.

First 3 hours is usually focused on relaxing. I go for a lot of walks and listen to podcasts or audiobooks. I leave near the beach so I regularly go for ~90 minute walks along the ocean, or Pat Howard and I have been recently been doing long walk-and-talks and just chat about some combo of poker, business, and our lives.

What content are you keeping up with? Do you mean like random Youtube videos / twitch streams / discords? If so, that's your problem right there haha.

I've had some times over the past 18 months where I completely rework major strategies, in which case I play Beethoven's Nightmare by Dragonland on repeat as I spend hours carefully re-crafting everything I'm doing. But for the most part it's gradual, incremental improvement and I don't need a stopwatch or anything.

RunItTw1ce a month ago

What content are you keeping up with? Do you mean like random Youtube videos / twitch streams / discords? If so, that's your problem right there haha.

I'll stop. I already quit discord about a year ago. There is a ton of YT content out there and also just keeping up with Rio videos here. Spend too much time studying and not enough time grinding. Going to switch over to grinding first, then studying after, so I can use most of my energy for making money as most of my blueprint isn't going to change much from the videos I watch. Most of the YT content I unsubscribed to start the year. I found myself going back down that rabbit hole though.

Context switching would occur if you have other things open and are constantly checking it. Ideally, you'd just have your music on in the background and not need to look at it.

Do you put your phone across the room or close social media while you play? What mechanical things are you doing to eliminate these distractions? In The Mental Game of Poker 2 book it briefly talks about why people feel the need to check social media instead of focusing on the task at hand. Usually there is some life imbalances where they are not getting enough social interaction. Having a day off or planning social events helps your level of focus on the other days of the week.

Beethoven's Nightmare by Dragonland

This feels hard to focus! I prefer something like this for drilling on wizard.

I spend hours carefully re-crafting everything I'm doing. But for the most part it's gradual, incremental improvement and I don't need a stopwatch or anything.

Some coaches like Luke Johnson recommend splitting your study days. Where he might only study on Mondays and the rest of the week is dedicated to grinding. I guess it helps balance out the energy levels as well. Not getting burned out before your session even starts through studying. Do you do anything like this?

Thanks IAmNeo for coming back! Also why RIO instead of a site like 2+2?

IAmNeo a month ago

RunItTw1ce Poker Youtube is fine for entertainment, but not study. The best thing you or anyone else could do is never watch another "OMG look at this Linus hand!" video unless it's just for fun.

I don't think I have any special advice for how to focus or manage your life haha. I'm sure everyone knows what they SHOULD do, it's just a matter of actually doing it.

2+2 is too much of a zoo. I'd rather have a site like RIO basically "host" the blog, but I'm saving all my key posts in case I want to repost / x-post it somewhere else at some point. It might be good to also put something in Mobius discord for people if they wanted to interact. It's 2025, so blogs are kinda 30 years old lol, but it's nice to have something sort've permanent up that people can reference.

TRUEPOWER 2 months ago

Would love to hear your thoughts about this hand!

Love the blog thank you

Freenachos 2 months ago

Matt commented on this hand in one of the Mobius podcasts. Highly recommend to check that out.

IAmNeo a month ago

Yeah, I discussed it on the Mobius podcast in depth if you're curious. But at that time Linus and I had no dynamic / he had no real reason to think I'd call light. If anything it's ultra high stakes and I'm not known for these stakes, so he'd prob be more likely to overbluff than underbluff in this vacuum scenario.

If the same hand happened again though I'd just fold. I think he saw what he needed to see and I won't be able to get away with such a huge exploit again.

Mobius Poker Podcast

In case anyone is interested. That's the latest podcast I've been on.

IAmNeo a month ago

One of the biggest helps to organizing my study process over the past year+ has been switching to notion.com to keep track of what I do.

It's a waste of time to study new strategies or processes and not write them down, so writing and categorizing everything I work on makes recalling it and memorizing it much easier.

You can organize everything into your own personal dashboard.

From there, you can break things down into individual pages and projects. I've already covered everything high impact in 6-max, so recently I started working on a "bonus" page to go deeper into more specific lines and sequences. As I study, I change the icon to a red arrow to indicate it's done, and blank pages still need to be completed.

This makes review of key concepts easier when I have my afternoon study time, and reduces decision fatigue and starting friction when it comes to exploring new topics. I've already outlined what I think is relevant and what I should do next, so it's one less excuse not to do it.

The nice thing is it's free for personal use, its only paid if you share & work collaboratively. It's worth giving a try if you want to find a way to make your studies more concrete.

IAmNeo a month ago

cant5t0p Haven't tried it. I'm sure there's different types of software like this because there's a whole market for collaborative workspace products, but the real win was getting away from Evernote because that was just buggy garbage for me.

cant5t0p a month ago

cool thanks, btw Beethoven's nightmare is dope! my version of that is cemetary gates by pantera :)

ICCARD a month ago

Any chance you can share these notes with us? I'm very bad at bookkeeping. Very typical of me to not ever have taken a note out of all the hours I studied.

Riske88 20 days ago

Any tips on getting the most out of notion? I've been looking for a better way to organize my personal study, so just curious if there are any tutorials/videos you found useful in getting the most out of the software.

Thanks

Jeff_ a month ago

1) I haven't watched pod, where are gonna play in order to make that amount of money (at least at this moment, we don't know the future) ?(Except ACR)
2) Do you agree that poker dream is still alive? Where poker will take direction in near future?
3) How in your opinion HS games changes over last and this year? Very tough and edges are non existant or people still missplay and don't know everything?

thank you

IAmNeo a month ago

1) ClubWPT Gold, Apps, ACR, Ignition, Coin

2) Yes. I think sites that have high rake / high bumhunt models will progress to be more of the norm. I don't think it's the end of the world if you have the discipline to grind and game select, but it does degrade a bit from the integrity of the game.

3) Depends who you ask. Statistically, the games have gotten closer to GTO with the help of stuff like GTO Wizard and the like. It's just easier to get closer to correct frequencies.

It's pretty rough to get a sample of top 10 players and see them win for >2bb/100 in 6-max reg battles, partially because they just battle each other a lot. I think the main reason to reg battle is that it keeps you at the top of your game for when softer games go off, and you have to love the competition.

Also, the biggest reg battlers basically don't have a choice. They love doing it and have the capacity to win. Any rationalization they give for why it makes sense is basically bullshit / delusion. They do it because they love it and are obsessed with the game, and trust the rest will work itself out.

Personally, I'm a bit in the middle. Right now, the games for upper-midstakes to lower-high stakes are INSANELY good. Across every site and format I'm literally winning at 20bb/100 in over 50k hands on the year. If things dry up I'll probably find myself back in the ACR battle streets, or will clean up for (potentially) this years Online Poker Championship. But overall the life EV of just crushing limits I'm overrolled for and significantly outclass the competition is very tempting, but my competitive side has a hard time with that. Still working out the balance tbh.

razumnikov a month ago

I don’t even know if I’m talented at poker—because I refuse to find out.

this seems at odds with some other stuff I've heard u say. I'd b curious to hear u expand on what u mean by it.

anyway, glad to see u doing a public blog again.

IAmNeo a month ago

I could probably not study, play 10/20, and make a quite good living, but I don't want to do that. Relying on winning without studying would "prove" I had talent at poker, but that's not the way I want to play the game.

Entro789 a month ago

I know it is a tough question, but what kind of win rate (ballpark) do you think its achievable for you on a site like clubWPT as of now? How much do you think it will drop once technology advances enough for them to support multi-tabling?

IAmNeo a month ago

It has the potential to be an incredible site if they offer some kind of rewards and multi-tabling. They are taping into the US market where recreationals don't need to deposit with Bitcoin, and they have a competent marketing department that reaches people.

FilletOFish a month ago

Appreciate the thread.

Is grinding low/mid stake cash on legal US regulated sites a better use of time over MTTS? I've been contemplating switching but am kind of apprehensive.

Thanks for your time.

IAmNeo a month ago

US regulated cash is the softest environment in online poker. The US has an insanely high GDP with a culture that isn't shy to gamble, and there's very few top regs. I don't know as much about MTT, but cash is great for small to midstakes.

Why are you thinking about switching? Personally, I recommend committing to something you're passionate about and finding a way to navigate that, if you can. If you switch to cash half-heartedly you'll probably get crushed no matter how soft the game is, so I think it can be a good idea to pick a lane and move up vertically through that.

IAmNeo a month ago

I received a message on discord this week from a SSNL grinder friend who asked for advice on getting to high stakes. My most important and under-appreciated piece of advice for moving up in stakes and succeeding in poker: You have to actually believe you can do it.

It's so hard to genuinely believe you will succeed in the face of so much self-doubt, and poker will give you a lot of that. Not only do you face an overwhelming amount of negativity from people online, but you also haven't achieved the results you hoped you would. You think "I'd be more confident if I just had the results to back it up", but you won't have the results until you're more confident.

Even though you may not have genuine confidence in your ability yet, you can have confidence in things like "I'm not going to give up". You can believe "I'm going to commit every fiber of my being to this thing because it matters to me". You have control over those commitments, and they can actually be both easy and fun to pursue.

What if you just decided to look at things differently?

I always loved Pure Imagination from the original Willy Wonka movie, the lyrics go:

If you want to view paradise
Simply look around and view it
Anything you want to, do it
Want to change the world?
There's nothing to it.

Anytime I hear it, it makes me think about how we can choose the way we experience life. There's probably many beautiful things already going on in your life; all you have to do is view it. Anything you want to do? Pursue it. Want to change your world? There's nothing to it.

It's the last bit that always get me. You can look at making positive changes in your life as an impossible task, or you can think "there's nothing to it." It seems almost naive or childlike to approach things that way, but maybe that's not so bad. There's plenty of people reading this dealing with shit way more important than poker. Forget about ten million dollars, plenty of people out there are on a day-to-day basis struggling with addiction, depression, divorce, disease, loneliness, loss, or conflict.

My message is simple: You can do it. Whatever it is you're dealing with in life, you actually can overcome it. It starts today. If you look at your life in this moment, you can actually see you're closer than you think. Remember: If you want to change the world, there's nothing to it.

It's not possible for every single person reading this to make it to high stakes poker, but I hope anyone that reads this blog over the coming years will feel inspired to be bold and imaginative enough to take on goals that would actually matter to them should they succeed.

Whether it's poker-related or not, feel empowered to embrace life and take it on with your full heart. If you are to succeed, then letting go of that fear and self-doubt in exchange for hope is the first and most essential step. And most importantly, in whatever you take on, but ESPECIALLY poker: Believe you can actually do it.

Oback2 a month ago

Amazing post!

I'm so tired of reading the constant pessimism in the poker community. This was an amazing breath of fresh air.

There's nothing to it.

RunItTw1ce a month ago

I thought The Mental Game of Poker 2 would go well with your post. I just read this chapter today on self discipline. Where a lot of players think people either have it or they don't, but its more of a skill or muscle that is trained. In the client's story he talks about playing 32 hour sessions and continuing to grind even when he was tired and burned out until the fish had no more money. However, he learned being more professional and keeping a schedule is going to net him about 15% more money yearly than a regular who had bad habits of chasing losses, not sleeping properly, unhealthy eating, etc. A lot of the confidence in poker comes from the work you do off the table!

IAmNeo a month ago

Yeah, I had my own version of that when dealing with some of the nosebleed games that ran last year. There were 3 whales playing 40k-100knl at various times, and I was playing them any time day or night. Was frequently up till 6:30am and just waking up and going to sleep at random times. I don't quite regret it because it was very profitable, but it felt extremely unhealthy, and I think I'd opt for a more healthy and consistent grind instead. That definitely plays into my decision to de-stress things this year and play limits I'm more over-rolled for on a consistent schedule.

I recently took Tim Urban's idea of using a "chess clock" to help me manage my work days, and I've liked it a lot so far.

I set it to 8 hours of work, which includes study and play, and 5 hours of rest, and the clock starts after my 3 hours to myself in the morning. If I'm playing and stop to eat, go to the bathroom, watch TV, or click over to youtube etc., I press the clock. It forces me to consider the opportunity cost of everything I'm doing, and objectively track how much work I've accomplished. When the 8 hours is up, I'm done unless there's a major whale playing high stakes or something, but so far I've always stopped at 8 hours.

Here's the link of a deeper explanation for it to anyone interested. I bought the clock on Amazon for ~$20.

Tim Urban Explanation

Orca206 a month ago

Ultimately, if some 50nl reg with a dream reads this blog and decides to adopt this mindset, taking my approach as a source of inspiration, then sharing these things will be worthwhile to me.

I started playing Poker one year ago. I am the guy with the dream you are talking about here. Insight into your process is inspirational. Sooner than later, I'll see you at high stakes.

Sincerely, thanks for posting.

ICCARD a month ago

In the long run this constant battle against time personally brought me a lot of added anxiety in my life. With the money you have and the hourly you are making maybe when you feel burn out you can consider a more laid back approach. Maybe this fits your personality better than it did for me tho!

Any thoughts to making videos in the future?

IAmNeo a month ago

I can see how it could give someone anxiety, in which case obviously don't do that. It doesn't really bother me, personally. Fwiw, I don't do it every day, just work days.

As far as videos, you never know. No plans at the moment.

RunItTw1ce a month ago

As far as videos, you never know. No plans at the moment.

Become an essential coach and the redline the hell out of 50NL - 200NL! There is so much fear at lower stakes with pulling the trigger on bluffs or bluff catching. A small contract would help so many people as you mentioned 50NL players break out of their shell.

IAmNeo 24 days ago

Thanks for the suggestion! I'd rather put it out on Youtube for free than be an essential coach, though.

I don't think redline matters and deliberately trying to win at non-showdown doesn't seem like the best thing to focus on. There's already plenty of SSNL-MSNL "redliners" on youtube / twitch, and I generally don't find them to be good players.

I think it's better to be OBSESSED with the fundamentals and dedicate yourself to playing great poker. I spend a ludicrous amount of time reviewing every little thing and never leaving a question unanswered. Winning in red line is sexy and highly arbitrary, but diligently finding your leaks, drilling them, creating detailed notes about a spot, staying up till late in the night and checking every postflop spot in Wiz AI to make sure you understood your range, that's the type of dedication that will make a difference for people.

Yes, some people are still risk adverse at low stakes, but I don't think a random YT video will change that. You can tell those people to loosen up and they'll say "I know, I know" and then continue to nit it up. Taking someone from nit to hero usually requires the type of mentorship that comes from long-term coaching, but maybe could come from a public course as well if its lengthy and the player feels immersed in it. I just find it's a very emotional topic for them deep down, and having a solid relationship with a coach is key to avoid them regressing when they hit the inevitable 20 buy-in downswing.

RunItTw1ce 23 days ago

Thanks for the suggestion! I'd rather put it out on Youtube for free than be an essential coach, though.

I'm pre-subscribed! LFG!

You can tell those people to loosen up and they'll say "I know, I know" and then continue to nit it up.

This is where your videos will help! Telling them something and showing them at least for me changes things drastically. I have a friend who moved up from 50NL to 10/20 and has been telling me this for a long time. There are several things I can't wrap my head around though. Mainly for live cash.

Higher rake
shallower stacks
They cold call a ton
Multiway pots.

I don't see how opening hands like KTo QJo from LJ/HJ is going to help. There are usually 1-2+ limpers and when you try to ISO 7bb you just end up going MW still. So it doesn't make sense to ISO a wide range and play a bloated pot with a low SPR with marginal hands. Feels almost handcuffed at lower stakes. GTO wizard charts are too tight. There are so many questions your videos could shed some light on.

Would love to see if you would apply some of the same things you did on ignition i.e. MOP pod you mentioned you were 3 betting something like 30% of hands from all positions at 500NL.

I tried loosening up taking all the mixes for RFI ranges and making them pure, a lot of the 3bet ranges making them pure for the linear section. Yesterday I was playing vs a maniac raising dark, so I was 3 betting A3s, A5s, QTs, and a bunch of premiums. I LOST to a guy cold calling 3bets Q9o, calling 3bets K9o, 43s, and even 62o on one hand.

The main question I had at the end of my session was are these preflop wars even worth it? Should I just be calling and keeping the SPR at a higher level or continue to play these 3-4 SPR pots? I don't know if I'm just complaining about variance and I'm on the right track or if something is wrong with my strategy.

Please please please! Make some videos!

Taking someone from nit to hero usually requires the type of mentorship that comes from long-term coaching, but maybe could come from a public course as well if its lengthy and the player feels immersed in it. I just find it's a very emotional topic for them deep down, and having a solid relationship with a coach is key to avoid them regressing when they hit the inevitable 20 buy-in downswing.

I 100% concur to this. I'm a very open book and have addressed a lot of the issues I've had with variance stemming from childhood. Even though I'm aware of these risk averse emotions it's still a lot of lack of confirmation on whether or not I'm adjusting correctly.

Demondoink 23 days ago

Hey Matt. I'm going to get back on to the poker grind in the next couple days, and I'll slowly work my way through your blog.

I look forward to reading it and to interacting in the thread. Good luck on the grind and on the sick challenge!

A B 23 days ago

What does your daily routine look like? Do you have anything that you used to that you would like to bring back to your routine?

I read from somewhere that you have done meditation, do you still do it regurarly? If not, why did you stop?

Could you share how your typical meditation session looks like?

Thank you for the blog, I relate to your killer mindset.

IAmNeo 23 days ago

I'll break my routine into big picture and the details.

Big Picture

I study a ton. I think about poker as soon as I wake up, it's the last thing I think about before I go to sleep, and it's not uncommon to dream about poker. To have a substantial amount of success typically requires a deep focus or obsession with the game.

To balance that out, I tend to break my work life into "seasons" like a professional athlete. I want my existence to be about more than getting dealt two cards, so I take extended breaks a couple times a year to relax, travel, and enjoy life. The end of this season for me is April 7th, and I have plans for my hobbies along with travel plans for my wife and I, and I'll be back May 1st.

When I'm in the midst of my work time, my study process revolves around three things:

Strategize, Drill, Review

From there, I tend to play at night time. I looked at my results lifetime on just ACR and Ignition specifically, and found this:

There's basically no reason for me to ever play poker before 5pm if I'm playing on sites primarily facing North American recreational players.

The Details

Strategize

I already covered my strategy development approach in an above post using Notion, but my goal is to have a conceptual framework to approach every meaningful scenario I encounter. So I have a set strategy & way of thinking about flop c-bet, turn double barrels, ISO vs fish, river bluffcatching, adjusting vs LAG, adjusting vs Nit etc.

This work tends to be the most boring for me, but the most beneficial. I can't win without good strategy, but it's often very tedious and requires a lot of solvers, notation, excel pages, reports, and other boring things.

Drill

I drill the highest impact lines for both HU and 6-max using a combination of PIO Trainer and GTO Wizard. I think Wizard would probably work just fine for the average player.

I also use custom software to train developed by Pat Howard for Mobius Poker.

Pat has become an AI master and is creating all sorts of custom software to make poker training easier. This software allows me to easily study my exact ranges and strategies in a play-like enviornment.

For those with a RIO sub, I’d say this video by Steve Paul is fairly similar to what I do with PIO trainer: https://www.runitonce.com/poker-training/videos/steve-paul-flop-raising-bb-vs-btn-2/

Review

By an infinite margin, the most valuable thing for my review process has been the Mobius Stat Checker

https://www.mobiuspoker.com/stat-checker

The stat checker is a pop-up in Hand2Note 4 that allows you to review all of your stats in great detail across the entire game tree. This is essential because it’s basically impossible to keep track of your leaks using intuition or individual hand review. It’s also great because you can look at your database to study your opponent’s statistical weaknesses as well.

(Side Note: I have no financial interest in Mobius poker and receive no money if you buy anything there. I am a part of the Mobius Poker community and Pat and I are friends. If Pat and I team up for something in the future and I have a vested interest in it, I’d disclose that. Foolishly by me, there is no “Code Matt”)

Every week I upload my hands and review all my stats in every node. If I have a statistical leak in some capacity, I focus on it and patch it up by the next review. The leaks I find in the stat check inform the drills I prioritize, so it’s all a synergetic process.

Also, I review all my hands every night / following morning. I mark hands while playing for review, and then generally review every pot I play above 10bb won or lost. This number can change depending on how much volume I played, but usually I review everything above 15bbs at the worst. I basically never skip this and has been my most religious practice.

Overall, this process keeps tabs on every part of the game. I develop strategies so I have a concrete framework for every relevant thing I’m likely to encounter, I practice drills to re-enforce those learnings using a variety of software, and then measure the outcome by reviewing both individual hands and long-term statistical trends in my database.

Then when it comes to playing, just show up and play consistently at the optimal time of day. Repeat until $10,000,000.

Dddogkillah 21 days ago

I did some work in night vision a long time ago…. Is this what that evolved too I’m assuming the yellow blur is solver land strategies?
Also what does your study to play ratio look like. Very inetersestin g how you break your play up into seasons.
The onset of trainers seems to be a great help to the boredom and mundane study that that comes with working with solver.

IAmNeo 21 days ago

I guess you could say that it's the very long-tail end game of those early H2N courses, yes. Yeah, the blur are the optimal frequencies.

The off-season usually has time to focus on strategy development, which is nice because I can't really think that deeply about new things when I'm in the midst of the grind. But on a daily basis I'd say it's around 5:1 play:study ratio, then when I'm on my breaks I can be way more creative and it's 100% study.

It definitely has made everything easier.

IAmNeo 22 days ago

RunItTw1ce The issue for me is that I don't feel like telling people to barrel off resonates with my core message. I look at it more like, "when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to become a good measure." A lot of people look at something like redline as a proxy for how well they're playing, but I think its better to just focus on the fundamentals and a coherent strategy and let the lines fall where they will. In short, remove red/blue line from your graph. Doesn't matter.

With your situation, it sounds like you're over-thinking it. You're playing opponents that are calling 62o vs 3-bet? Sounds simple. Just 3-bet a linear range and obliterate them by flopping like 62% equity every time. If 3-betting something like KTo OOP is just going to make you nervous and confused, then don't do that. Just size up and play stronger hands preflop.

We'll see about videos. Blogging is fine because I can write quickly / easily, whereas videos seem like more of a pain in the ass, and I also don't want to go overboard with sharing everything. The world will have to make due with this blog for now, unfortunately.

Thanks for sharing your personal experience. The uncertainty in poker is inescapable, as you know, but hopefully you can continue to grow and develop an even stronger relationship with handling it.

IAmNeo 22 days ago

Demondoink (Gonna reply to your post in my own thread since its a bit lengthy)

I don't think that most poker players, and especially the casual readers, care that much about reading about mindfulness, happiness, self improvement etc on a poker forum, they would much prefer to read a poker blog where results and graphs are shared, and especially one that involves some kind of challenge- like your $10m goal!

I think people will read anything that adds value to their life; poker forum or not. If you're reading poker blogs on the internet, you're likely looking for something you can take away, whether it be inspiration or insight.

Put yourself in the shoes of your average reader. They're probably playing 25nl-200nl, they've had some sparks of greatness in their poker journey, but overall haven't succeeded like they wish they would have, and they're looking for answers to get them to the next level. In some ways, the bits of success they've had along the way is sort've maddening, because it gives them enough hope to know they have the capacity to do well, but they can't quite get across the threshold.

So they're coming here with self-talk that's already like "Am I good enough to move up in stakes?", "Why am I not winning more, is it me? I want to say it's variance, but it's been too long to blame variance". Poker is demoralizing and disillusioning by default, and it's an absolute breading ground for self-doubt and frustration.

So ultimately, no, they don't care about your graph; they care about their graph. They care about finding some way for poker to provide the financial stability they're seeking, as well as achieving the self-actualization from accomplishing a goal they've red-lined so much in their mind. They want to transcend the limitations they thought they had and realize the potential they feel is inside them deep down.

That's why my blog is written in the way it is. I'm doing my best to speak directly to people actually reading it, and I don't feel like I really need to share my results aside from post 1, which only really establishes my credibility. I'm not talking about the things I'm really thinking about in my own life, because overall I'm doing extremely well and don't need anything from anyone. I don't need a journal for me, but it's about giving a little something back to the community.

Of course you have your own reasons for blogging along with your own voice and style. Just offering you (and others) some insight into my perspective and why I'm doing this.

Demondoink 21 days ago

I think people will read anything that adds value to their life; poker
forum or not. If you're reading poker blogs on the internet, you're
likely looking for something you can take away, whether it be
inspiration or insight.

I think that is true, but at the same time this is a poker training site so the vast majority of people have signed up to RIO with the goal of improving at poker and on moving up in stakes as opposed to reading about travelling or achieving spiritual enlightenment. I am sure there are much better places to read about these sorts of topics than on RIO.

Which is why I also try to have some sort of balance in my blog of life/travel/self improvement stuff but also poker focused posts as well as hand histories.

So ultimately, no, they don't care about your graph; they care about
their graph.

They do care about your graph and results though. If you look at the most popular blogs on RIO (Freenachos, Neo, Demondoink, CD9 and Onklebs before us) then these are also the guys that are playing the highest stakes and have at one point or another shared graphs, results and hand histories.

Now you could argue that these guys are simply the best writers, or have the best ideas, but I know people more intelligent than myself (for example the guy I used to study with who played 200nl) who likely wouldn't get a fraction of the readers were he to start his own blog on RIO.

The fact that you shared a picture of your poker profits gives you the credibility to share your thoughts and have people believe that what you are telling them is the truth, or at the very least is pointing in the right direction.

If someone playing $50nl makes the exact same blog, comments etc but is down $10k lifetime in cash games then he will get almost no interaction, and even if he does, it will likely be tinged with distrust due to the nature of his poker results.

The poker players in this thread trust you to help them to move up in stakes simply because you have shown to be a crusher in poker.

That's why my blog is written in the way it is. I'm doing my best to
speak directly to people actually reading it, and I don't feel like I
really need to share my results aside from post 1, which only really
establishes my credibility.

But doesn't the fact that you titled the thread 'making ten million' suggest that you will be sharing your poker results throughout the thread?

RunItTw1ce 22 days ago

The issue for me is that I don't feel like telling people to barrel off resonates with my core message. I look at it more like, "when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to become a good measure." A lot of people look at something like redline as a proxy for how well they're playing, but I think its better to just focus on the fundamentals and a coherent strategy and let the lines fall where they will. In short, remove red/blue line from your graph. Doesn't matter.

Thank you for this. Very helpful once I understood a bit more of what you meant in layman's terms. IAmNeo

Ai response because I didn't know what you meant by this.

This phrase, often attributed to Goodhart's Law, suggests that when a metric or a measure becomes the primary focus, often for the purpose of evaluation or competition, it loses its effectiveness as a meaningful indicator. This happens because people start to manipulate the measure itself rather than focusing on the underlying goal or outcome it's supposed to represent.
Think of it like this: if a school starts judging its success solely by students' test scores, teachers might focus on teaching to the test rather than providing a well-rounded education. The test scores become the target, but they no longer accurately reflect the quality of education.
In a broader sense, this phenomenon occurs in many areas, such as economics, politics, and social sciences. When a measure becomes a target, people start gaming the system, which can lead to unintended consequences and undermine the original purpose of the measure.
For instance, in the corporate world, if a company's success is measured solely by quarterly profits, executives might prioritize short-term gains over long-term sustainability or social responsibility. This can result in decisions that benefit the company's bottom line but harm its employees, customers, or the environment.
The phrase serves as a warning that metrics and measures should be used thoughtfully, considering the potential consequences of making them the primary focus.

sbdd 22 days ago

I agree with you vs demon, you can find results / graphs // hhs anywhere. And they are mostly meaningless (besides the non bbv hh). The rare large sample 10bb/100 graphs are inspiring but it’s much more inspiring to hear the psychological narrative driving it. Thanks for sharing Matt

Ronaldsanches 18 days ago

Very good Matt!

One question: what do you think about playing at ignition-bovada-bodog nowadays having to deal with bots and collusion?

Do you still think it is beatable for a regular who plays nl500-nl1000 without a team that studies the bots' tendencies in depth?

Congratulations and good luck!

IAmNeo 18 days ago

Riske88 Unfortunately, I don't have any tips for Notion. It's pretty intuitive; though, so I think the most important step is getting started.

Ronaldsanches Yes, I think it's beatable for a normal reg without countering the bots specifically. My advice is to just deposit and see how you feel about it. The downside is bots + RTA (I still get fairplay hits from GTO Wizard), but the upside is good reg:fish ratio / whales.

The risk-reward needs to be determined by whether the individual is comfortable with playing against a certain amount of cheating, and what other options are available.

rgossiaux 17 days ago

Hey Matt--first, really happy to see you blogging again. You probably know this, but you're an inspiration for a lot of players, not just for your incredible results but also for your undeniable work ethic and for your no-bullshit attitude. And for me in particular, you're a particular inspiration as a fellow American.

Curious what your take is on ClubWPT Gold atm if you're willing to share. Like you, I was making a lot of money on the site when it launched and think I had a very high winrate in that period. In the last month I think I'm down roughly 10 BIs at 5/10/20, though. Obviously that's a pretty small downswing and I have a pretty tiny sample size, but if you're a huge winner in the games (as you might expect if they're super soft) I think losing 10 BI right out the gate is still pretty unlikely. And recently I've been talking to some other US mid & high stakes online regs and have heard about a bunch of other people losing (often simply hitting the deposit limits and busting their rolls on the site), which is also a little eyebrow-raising if you combine their samples with mine.

It's a bit confusing because the tables still "feel" pretty good to me--there are still recreational players, and a bunch of the regs seem very weak, possibly live poker regs (based on some of the awful preflop play I've seen + some crazy showdowns). Half the players on the table or more would have games run around them if they sat down at 2k on an established, normal-rake site. However, the rake is super high and there's zero rakeback. So I can't tell to what extent I'm failing to factor that in to my gut assessment of the game quality--I might not be properly calibrated on the "how good the table is" to "expected WR" conversion. No hand histories means there's no transparency for regs on how the games are playing.

I'm wondering if you & your network have been having good results at 2k there, since you probably know different people than I do. If you've been raking it in then I'll feel better about continuing to play there--I could very easily just be running and/or playing badly. If your results have been mediocre or losing as well then I may reevaluate continuing to play these games. Of course you're obviously a much stronger player than I am so I'm not sure how much actionable info I'll get if you say you won 50k there last month, but hey :)

IAmNeo 17 days ago

I don't think it's likely you have a relevant sample to make a decision based purely off your results. Remember, 10 buy-ins in this is also less than 10 buy-ins on a normal site because you're basically short stacking. Before the ante increase, 5/10/20 (2) puts $51 in the pot preflop compared to $30 at normal 10/20. Now with $5 ante, the variance will be even higher.

Longterm, they will add some kind of rakeback system. I emailed support when they launched, and got a reply:

"Currently, we do not have an active rake back program during this phase of our launch. However, we are excited to share that we are developing a competitive rewards program, which we hope to implement later this year."

So we'll see what that does, though it may be offset by multitabling being added, which will dilute the reg:fish ratio. Further, the deposit limit skews things by making it so that fish can't reload easily.

Big picture, my take is that a serious online pro should stomp these games. They'll sprinkle in a little rakeback, but largely it comes from the fish and whales that will ultimately be allowed to reload, and all the shit regs that will pay you their tithe through horrendous preflop play and bad fundamentals. If anything, it should actually excite people to work to become an elite player, because the payoff is high considering there is little competition.

One main drawback I believe will be any regulatory / legal issues they run into with the sweepstakes model, but I don't know what'll happen with that. At the least, US regulated is making progress overall with PA finalizing plans to integrate into MSIGA, so I think North America has some of the best options for online poker in a very long time and good players have an opportunity for very high salaries if they can manage it all well.

TL;DR: The pool is soft. Just reload, keep working on your shit, and the domination will come.

Oback2 16 days ago

I'm not sure what state you're from - Any plans to join the MSIGA pool?

jumpfreak888 16 days ago

Hey Matt,

Really impressed with everything you've done. What would your best advice be for someone who is struggling to break out of the low stakes? Just out of curiousity -- how much of your profits have come from fast-fold variants?

How do you approach studying spots? You mention in gest that you're not a talented poker player... is that a way of saying you're focused on fundamentals/gto more than exploits?

IAmNeo 16 days ago

Oback2 I have no plans to join a MSIGA pool... yet! :o

jumpfreak888 Overall, I think the best thing a person could do to jumpstart their career if they're stuck at low stakes is get coaching. If it were any other career where someone aspired to make 6-figures, they'd have to study for 4-8 years in school and pay 6-figures for an education, but poker players can't stand to approach it with even 1% of that level of time or financial investment.

Basically, if you've tried to get better at poker on your own and haven't succeeded at that yet, then resisting help will only extend your frustration.

My main piece of advice for picking the right coach or public pack is to find someone that resonates with you. It's better to have a coach that wins at 5/10 that's a great fit for you then a 25/50 coach that doesn't vibe with your style. Using talk therapy as a comparison, research consistently shows that the quality of the therapeutic alliance is the single most important factor in achieving positive outcomes in therapy. The quality of your connection to the coach & material will be more important than going with who has the most enticing graph.

If you're interested in individual coaches and some CFPs, you could check out this link on 2+2: Coaches & Schools

Recommended CFPs:*
https://bitbcash.com/ - A roster of crushers and great track record that operates with integrity. They're the gold standard and my go-to recommendation for CFPs. Youtube Link

https://www.nachospoker.com/ - Patrick is very active in the community, so you have tons of free content to make your decision from. Historically, they've done quite well on Ignition and GG Rush & Cash. Youtube Link

https://www.pokerwithriske.com/ - Roster of legitimate high stakes coaches running a respectable operation. Particularly, Armin and Conor are legit top players, and Armin told me he's an active coach and the program is solid. Also, they don't just recruit people in regulated pools, so definitely consider them no matter where you're from. Youtube Link

Expert Coaching (For Established Midstakes Winners+)

https://www.mobiuspoker.com/ - Pat Howard has had an incredible impact on my poker career. He and I have worked together in various capacities for 5 years, and I've always been privy to the latest version of his content. Pat has a background in Physics, and reading his work is like a peer-reviewed research paper, and seeing his students results makes me wonder why anyone thinks poker is dying. (Seriously, why don't I have Code Matt?) Youtube Link

Guerilla Poker - Anyone that knows high stakes cash knows Guerilla. The reputation of these players precedes themselves as it seems like a huge chunk of nosebleed players are connected with them in some capacity, and Uri is a well-known and respected coach in the industry. Youtube Link

Reasons to Not Get Coaching

The above is far from an exhaustive list, so you may accidentally join a CFP that is more of a "factory". While CFP's have the illusion of aligning incentives, "we only make money if you make money", the reality is that CFPs can have an incentive to add as many students as possible and freeroll it.

The reason is that the marginal cost of adding additional students is low once the infrastructure is established. For instance, adding students #1-#5 is more costly than adding students #75-#80. What's another 5 players added to the google drive? Why not just throw another body or two into the group chat? If you succeed, great! They make money and can tout your results. If you fail, they drop and/or blame you. We have plenty of other winning players, so if you didn't succeed its on you!

One of the main things I'd look for is how involved the founder / head coach is. If they're more pre-occupied with admin stuff or seem more interested in being a CEO than a coach, then it's probably not a good system. Mentorship is the lifeblood of a good CFP, and the entire community and experience of the CFP will disintegrate without it. If people just provide you with only videos and workbooks, then that's not likely to help you. Strategy is a commodity at this point, and "content" is extremely inert. Mentorship and community is what endows the strategy with significance, as well as providing the guidance to implement it with confidence.

That's why the "canary in the coalmine" is if the founder seems detached from the original mission. The community and underlying coaches will mirror the effort of the CEO. If the CEO is detached, then everyone will subconsciously fall in-line with an opportunistic "every man for himself" mentality where everyone will stay in their own little islands, take what they can get from the company or situation, and leave at their first opportunity. If the CEO is actively engaged, then people will tend to be happier, more willing to contribute, and more invested in what's going on overall.

For anyone else curious about joining a CFP but having heard bad things, the main benefit of flying solo is avoiding having to give up so much of your profits. If you can get to the finish line without needing to pay a "tax" to coaches along the way, then that lifts an incredible financial burden off your journey.

Generally, I find those people to be exceptions and not the rule, but I wouldn't want to impose on anyone that they "have to" get coaching to excel. It's just, from my vantage point, that seems to be the most advantageous thing a person could try, so it's the first thing I suggest.

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PS - To answer your other questions, I have played very little fast fold, but my results on 500z on Ignition were insanely good. For most people, though winrates in zoom are very low and you need to be prepared for a grind.

Saying I'm not a talented player means I rely on study, preparation, and process over just showing up and relying on "out-thinking" people. It's more the essence of treating mastery as a practice, and a practice takes dedication, refinement, and iterative improvements in order to build subconscious competence.

In terms of the specifics, I think I've laid out to the best of my ability how I study, at least as far as what I want to share publicly.

RunItTw1ce 15 days ago

I have two questions if you don't mind.

Any CFPs for live cash? I have online / live background, but I live in Vegas area, so I'm only grinding live cash. I find what holds me back the most is just not putting in enough volume to match my expenses. I play enough to pay my bills, but not to climb the stakes. I go on these cycles, where I'm constantly resetting back to low stakes. 2018-2020 I was grinding 2/5 in cali until the casino shut down due to covid. I switched to online and moved to Utah grinding Ignition mainly 25NL / 50NL zone, but I was only grinding part time. Some 200NL zone, but only 10% of my volume. Did little over a million hands for 2 years with a 5.5bb/100 win rate. Not great, but solid winner. Moved to Vegas the end of 2022 and mainly just grinding 1/3 with a sprinkle of 1/3. With a win rate of 7-8bb/hr it mainly only covers my expenses. With all the knowledge from runitonce and other courses I have been through I feel like my knowledge & skill is pretty high, but its hard to get out of the "rake trap" of low stakes. I'm not sure if the secret sauce is just to start grinding 250-300 hours a month until I am rolled for 2/5 or something else?

Question #2

Saying I'm not a talented player means I rely on study, preparation, and process over just showing up and relying on "out-thinking" people.

I have a hand history where in this spot the villain is a semi studied reg for the 1/3 player pool who watches hungry horse videos as his learning path. He takes a 33-50-66 line which is more of a custom bet sizing for him as he will typically size to the strength of his hand. Given his ISO range (15%) of hands (over 3 limpers) and his custom bet sizing, my live read was this spot is heavily over bluffed as I don't think villain is shoving many over pairs in this spot. I did a bunch of node locking where this spot goes from like -15bb in EV to +4bb in EV depending on the frequency of the over pairs taking this line.

Anyway how do you separate the data points of folding here vs your live read? Like preflop could just be a fold facing the 7bb iso, but once I get to the flop, more importantly the river, my live read that the villain is bluffing is very strong, but in terms of strategy focusing on the data point of MW, 4 liner, BBB line, absolute size for the game being a bigger bet, etc all points towards folding. I'm struggling to separate process & strategy or going with my live reads. Usually when they under bluff, I just focus on if I dominate enough value or not. Then I have some unique spots like this, that seem to be pretty costly. I'm "right" but also "wrong" at the same time. I guess the question is do you strictly stick to the strategy and data points or do you allow yourself to make some creative plays and questionable calls in game?

IAmNeo 14 days ago

Q1: I think you really need to find some way to get to 2/5. Personally, I think you should be able to make way more playing WSOP.com online than 1/3, so I'd prefer to build up a roll that way. The 300 hour in a month thing feels like its too likely to lead to burnout / poor play to me, so I'd avoid that. I asked some guys in my network that I respect with more live experience, and the overall sentiment was to not be afraid to shot take and be aggressive with shots in some of the better games, because staying at 1/3 could just be a trap to making uber driver money and not being able to move up.

Q2: You have a baseline strategy and deviate in proportion to how strong the read is. If it's a very strong read then you can throw theory out the window, especially in a big pot vacuum scenario. If it's a hunch, then make gradient plays.

So I look at the hand and think, if you feel very strongly he's overbluffing on this, then its just a call. It's probably not -EV enough of a call in theory that a strong overbluff read wouldn't overturn that. The art of poker is being able to study the theory and balance that with intuition. There's always going to be edge cases that keep you up at night, but that's why it's a game with pursuing.

Navigating unique spots like this may seem costly in the short run because it hurts when you lose, but it's way more costly to pursue your poker career without self-trust.

In short, if you think you've got him beat, then there's only one option:

glopty 14 days ago

Hi Matt,

Been reading all of the updates on the blog & will continue to do so. Not only has it been inspirational but also extremely useful from a practical and organisational standpoint. (along with the MOP episode)

I had some questions regarding your routine. I know you have posted that you take time in the morning for yourself followed by some light review/study into the evening session. Given you said you go to sleep soon after finishing your session for the day I was wondering how you manage your energy and concentration? Are you just naturally able to perform at your best towards the end of the day or do you somehow mitigate this by resting/sleeping in the afternoon? Does fatigue ever cause you to finish sessions early or make more mistakes than you usually would?

Thank you

IAmNeo 13 days ago

I just listen to my body. If I'm tired then I take the day off; one of the perks of succeeding in poker and being your own boss is you can take a personal day whenever you need it. My current system is Monday is always off, and one more flex day during the week if I'm tired or have plans.

Entro789 13 days ago

You seem to be very much on the deliberate practice/hard work side of things on the work vs talent debate. Do you think LLinus is the best because he has work hardest/better than everybody or almost everybody?

What about SeaLLama? He is very young and certainly not amongst the people that has practiced the most deliberate practice in the highstakes (even midstakes!) community. So how is he one of the best of the world according to many ppl?

What about ohheycindy? Definitely a grinder that does not do too much delineate practice compared to some mid-highstakes players. And he is close to the top. Thoughts?

IAmNeo 13 days ago

It doesn't seem right for me to speak about other players' study routines. You'll have to ask them.

I think talent / natural ability plays a comparable role in poker as it would in any sport; you can't play in the NBA if you're 5'9". Still, poker is a lot more doable than a lot of other careers because there's recreational players, so the ability to bumhunt can bolster a lot of people up, and makes it so that it's not a "winner-take-all" scenario like other competitive sports or creative arenas.

When I was in college, I had a film professor say on this subject: "The best advice I could give for your career is just keep making stuff. Most people will give up and do something else, but even if I see someone whose work is initially not that great, I see them 10 years later and found they carved out some niche or made a way for something to work for them. Usually, people that stick to this long term and keep trying will find at least some kind of success."

I basically agree with this sentiment for poker. Not everyone can make it to high stakes, and there's going to be plenty of people whose natural ceiling would be mid-stakes, but I've also seen plenty of people over the course of 7+ years who I thought weren't that good and were doomed to SSNL who I stumble across now and see they're playing 5/10 - 10/20 and doing well. They're usually not battling world's best, but they found a way to approach poker that works for them and lets them win at a steady rate, usually involving crushing some soft games without self-sabotaging.

I focus on deliberate practice and discipline because that's what worked for me, and I share this process in case like-minded people are inspired to do the same. I'm not naïve to the importance of talent, but focusing on that can have the effect of demoralizing people, and I don't like myself or others to feel disempowered. I've found more success in life embracing a bit of "healthy delusion", focusing on controllable factors, and embracing whichever outcome comes for me.

RunItTw1ce 11 days ago

Not everyone can make it to high stakes, and there's going to be plenty of people whose natural ceiling would be mid-stakes

IAmNeo I just wanted to share this podcast from Mechanics of Poker Mr Builderman who's ceiling was 500NL - 2KNL and just played millions of hands at these midstakes and with his work ethic was able to make millions and retire early. Even though he had a lower ceiling than other people's ambition, he was still able to achieve financial freedom through hard work.

plasticelephant 13 days ago

You can always find exceptions, but if your approach is 'hopefully I'm an exception and I'm talented enough that I can become the next LL Seallama etc' then there is not really any point taking advice from anyone.

Nice blog Matt, couldn't agree more with everything you wrote about CFPs and staking.

IAmNeo 13 days ago

Thanks, George. I'm sure you and I could go on for a long time just talking about the poker coaching industry, haha.

A B 11 days ago

What books have had the biggest impact on your life and why?

IAmNeo 3 days ago

A B I'd say Grit by Angela Duckworth. I think everyone knows working hard is important, but she goes through the specifics and makes a science out of high performance.

IAmNeo 3 days ago

Poker is a confusing career. On one hand it can bankroll a comfortable life; on the other it’s an arena for testing the edge of our ability. I’ve spent the past 7 years wrestling with that dual mandate: earn a stable living and pursue mastery against the toughest opposition in the world.

I’m extremely competitive, but I’m also a husband who’d like to buy a house soon and sleep at night without economic anxiety, so my solution is:

75 % Normal Grind: Play in soft games where I'm overrolled with huge edge
25 % Reg Battles: Sit with killers, stay sharp, guilt-free

Weekly Routine
4 days: Normal Grind
1 day: Reg Battle
2 days: Off / Study

That's 20%. The other 5% is the boost from the Championship on Coin at the end of the year (sort've like my own "playoffs"). Why not 100 % grind? Because only caring about money feels like factory work; passion dies and so does performance. Why not 100 % battle? Because bills exist and stress kills. Why prioritize the grind? Because poker is a career to me, and economic security is smart and practical.

If you're a SSNL / MSNL player dreaming of moving up, it doesn't need to be a Isildur1 style suicide mission to the top. Conceptualizing it as all-or-nothing can leave you frozen, but never making a move feels stagnant. Compromising with yourself is the key to getting the best of both worlds.

BoldPlayer 21 hours ago

Hey Matt,

Thanks for the breakdown of your weekly routine. In the past I used to think that if I played the highest stake in the room- that I had to stay there. Your approach of 4 days normal grind and 1 day of reg battling really helps change my view to shot taking.

My local card room runs 1/3 and 2/5 (no 5/10) and the next highest stake after that is the biggest game in the house (10/20 deep stack). How would you go about mentally attacking the higher stake game when the buy ins are 4-6x more than your usual daily grind ? Its definitely been a mental barrier as one "rough day" at the higher stake game can take away many hours of profits at our regular game.

IAmNeo 20 hours ago

BoldPlayer I'd avoid words like "attacking" higher stakes when you're taking big shots. Playing high stakes is a major investment decision, and it's better to think rationally about the risk mentally and financially then code it with language that indicates there's some kind of bravado or "No Gamble No Future" sentiment about moving up.

My suggestion for dealing with it is to be compassionate with yourself and understanding that playing high stakes is stressful, and you're not doing anything wrong by feeling that way. It's better to put up guardrails so you feel as safe as possible, so that could mean a combination of a keeping a stop loss in mind that you honor, while also being selective and jumping in when the games are at their best. Basically, given its impact on you, don't jump in the game if the lineup is tougher than usual just because you want action.

Pat Howard wrote an article about this with his experience moving up to 10/20 online, maybe you or others could relate.

Mobius Link

baabreu95 a day ago

Hi Matt. You said that you studied all the hands you played the day before and that you won or lost 10 or more buyins. How did you do that? Did you just go over them again in the replayer or did you have some kind of written prompt to break down your tough process?

What is your opinion on the best way to optimize this process, considering the time spent and the effective learning?

IAmNeo 20 hours ago

I just go into HEM, select every hand that was +/- 10bbs, and click through. Hands that are pretty standard you can just click through, but if something catches my attention I will run it in Wiz AI. I also mark hands while playing if it's a small pot, stuff like "is this a fold vs cbet?" or a preflop threshold question. Basically, if I don't feel confident I understand something, I check it.

I'm drawn to it because everything else in my routine is very optimized and purposeful, where this gives me time to be creative and pursue rabbit holes / my curiosities. The reason it's so effective for me is because it feeds my obsession with poker and consider my plays from both an analytical and explo perspective, but also emotionally helps me "close the loop" on the uncertainty that accumulates throughout the day of grinding, which helps me disconnect after. I can't say what will help others, but I've heard from many others that have adopted this practice and enjoy it.

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