Help on Studying GTO
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Help on Studying GTO
Hello everyone, I recently started studying hands trying to build some GTO strategies. Is it necessary to have any program like GTOrange Builder or CREV to build a strong strategy as much as possible close to optimal? I can't afford any of these programs right now. I have read Ed Miller's 1 % book and he doesn't say anything about any program from these (just to write hands on paper and make ranges) so I think I could continue without them. What do you guys think? Also I'd like to ask if it's worth upgrading my account to Essential plan. Will it help me with GTO?
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Anyone?
Definitely the Essential Plan it will improve your game, no doubt about it, there's a lot of videos and info to assimilate ,it will be enough material to beat Micro and midstakes Card Runners EV is a great software too but just depends wich stakes are you playing I'm sure you can find cheaper options to analize your game. If you're playing at Low stakes, there's no way you should be devoting any effort to even attempting to learn anything about "GTO" at this point, since it's certainly won't help you crush the games you are playing.
Nice, thank you. Also as I said before is it necessary to have any program at all? I mean if I want to understand GTO better can I do it alone, maybe with some videos and not with any program?
Study 'The Mathematics of Poker'!
This is something I was thinking to do since months now. I'd probably check it soon. Want to understand the maths of the game more deeply so yeah that's a good option.
I agree with Blanco. It's def. worth it to upgrade to Essential, but not primarily for GTO reasons. There's a bit of GTO content for Essential I think, but most of it is Elite. However, if you're at a point where you consider GTORB or CREV expensive, then it's not going to be worth it to study GTO. You can study it for the enjoyment, but in terms of game value there are much better things to study first.
Even something like Mathematics of Poker (which is an awesome book btw) is probably pointless, it takes a lot of work to extract anything meaningful out of it, and it won't really be worth your time.
This is based on my experience from teaching applied GTO to professional (PLO) players. It takes more work than most are willing to put in, and doesn't necessarily give you the answers you seek.
Thank you! At them moment I am playing at NL5 and I'm at the point where I am about to move up in NL10. I know that GTO is pointless at these stakes but I want to study it more because I am curious about the theory behind the game and because it'll be helpful in later stakes. Also about the book, since I want to buy a new poker book soon if not for the mathematics of poker, could you recommmend any other more helpful option at the moment? I found 2 books that caught my attention, and these are the ones I am most willing to purchase. They are both written by Ed Miller. 1st is Playing The Player: Moving Beyond ABC Poker To Dominate Your Opponents and 2nd The Course: Serious Hold ‘Em Strategy For Smart Players. I'd appreciate any help ;)
Buy coaching. It is by far the best investment you can make if you want to move up the stakes asap.
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