Hand Analysis - Facing A CR With Top Pair Blind V Blind
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Hand Analysis - Facing A CR With Top Pair Blind V Blind
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Villain is 26/19 over a 2.4K sample. He 3bets 11% from the BB v the SB and has a 37% cold call range. His WTSD is 32% and W$WSF is 44.
PREFLOP: I put villain on the following range:
As always there is scope for argument here but this approximation takes into account the wide 3 bet range for villain in this position. My range is:
FLOP: My betting range would be:
VALUE:98s(4) JJ,TT,77 (9) JT (9) J7s(2) T7s(2) AA-QQ (18) AJ-QJ(36) J9(12) J8(3)-95 combos
BLUFFS: Theoretically I should have 2 bluffs to every value hand so 190 bluffs. I have somewhat less than this (especially when in reality hands like Qd9d,Adkd and AdQd are not really bluffs ) . Is this a problem ? If I were to reduce my value range to allow the correct proportion then arguably I should check back my precise hand here as this is among the weakest of my value bet hands.
What is villain’s range for raising here ? Villain raises flop cbets 15% IP and this flop texture would encourage a greater than average amount of raises both with made hands and semi bluffs. Here is the range I assign to villain after his raise:
I have left some weakish Jx in villain’s range because it is possible villain thinks with wide ranges and a wet flop he can and should bet widely for value and protection. On this basis my hand has about 54.5% equity v villain’s CR range and is the best hand nearly 77% of the time.
My MDF against villain’s raise is 4.25(4.25+5)x100=46% so at least 119 combos.
VALUE 3 BETS : 98s(4),JJ,TT,77(9) . I think 3 betting 2 pair or worse is too thin here ?
BLUFF 3 BETS: Do I again need a 2:1 ratio ? If so I need 26 combos. The difficulty here is that even if villain is bluffing he will have so many high equity bluffs that I query whether I will have sufficient fold equity to sustain this many bluffs ? If I did bluff here I would use the unpaired 2 card backdoor flush draw hands(13) . Some of these are high equity semi bluffs such as KcQc and Qc9c but I think this is good given my 3b is a shove. Should I really bluff more widely here ?
Anyway that leaves this calling range
TURN: Villain shoves. So what is his range here ? I think villain has made hands which he figures to be ahead of my range but vulnerable to a bad river card and draws of varying strength. Some villains may shove with 98s here but I think most would bet smaller at least with 9d8d. I have allowed 30% of other 98s combos as well as some of the weaker Jx combos. So that leaves this
My range has just over 50% equity against this range and my specific hand is best about 62.5% of the time. On this basis my fold seems a clear mistake. Using the MDF approach I should defend 12.5/(12.5+12.5)x100=50% of my flop calling range, so at least 112 combos of those remaining
TWO PAIR:JT(9)J7s(2) T7s(2)=13
OVERPAIRS: AA-QQ (18)
TOP PAIR: all JX combos(51)
WEAK PAIR PLUS FLUSHDRAW(SO ALL XdXd): A7s,A5s, K7s,K5s,97s,87s,76s,65s,54s(9)
OESD WITH FD: KQs,K9s,Q9s(3)
OTHER NFD:AKs,AQs,A9s,A8s,A6s, A4s,A3s,A2s(8)
This gets us to 102 combos . Already some of these feel like bluff calls (e.g. Ad6d) . I could arguably make up more by calling with hands like Qd8d.
What does seem clear is that I should have called with my actual hand which is nowhere near the bottom of my range. At the same time when I call villain’s check raise my range should be reasonably strong (though arguably capped) and when he shoves there are few worse hands with which he would do this for value so my hand is a bluffcatcher. In game his line felt like he had a made hand which was scared of draws and was relieved by the turn blank which he saw as an opportunity to shut out the draws (or at least get incorrect calls from some of them). Equally, I can see he might take this line with a draw especially if he perceives me as having a capped flop calling range. Snowie considers my fold a clear mistake. Is there any case to the contrary?
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I hope this thread gets some attention....I think this kind of shows why basing our decisions on a MDF is not such a good idea on a street by street basis. I am not even sure anymore how useful it is even as a guide. Do you have crEV scrappy? If so plug this in there and see what it says is a profitable turn call - maybe you call too much OTF? Maybe not enough? Maybe you bet too wide OTF, maybe not wide enough? It is all so freaking complicated and honestly has me pretty disillusioned at the moment. Hopefully someone really smart will come in and offer up some advice to how to go about this because 1-a is not really the answer (at least I don't think it is).
Firstly,apologies. The link for the HH was omitted from the post. When I went back to Weaktight to find it the original link had gone. I tried to search my HM2 for the hand and have reposted it so you can now see the hand we are talking about !
No, I do not have crEV. Do you recommend it ? I should have talked about this with my current coach but a previous coach said to me that in practical terms of time invested/ reward it was probably not the way to go. I am now grinding 6 hours a day and allow 1 hour post session analysis per day then 4 more hours study at the weekend. If crEV can make a good claim for some of that time then I will definitely consider it.
crEV is a very hard program to get good at using. Once you have gotten good at it though, it is probably the single best individual program available. Personally, I have had it for about a year and still suck at it and rarely use it.
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