Had a total nervous breakdown playing PLOHU

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Had a total nervous breakdown playing PLOHU

Hello, wanted to give an account what happened to me today and maybe somebody could make a suggestion what to do if that occurs in the future... :(

Was sitting at plo 200hu when a guy sits at my table with 150$.

He plays weird to say the least and he 3 bets like 40% and then cbetting those flops 95% over 400 hands ( mostly for potbet and later also almost always pots the turn)

I figure it will be quite easy.. all i have to do is call his 3bets reasoanbly and slowplay flops with the occasional move since his range is so weak.

Over the next hour he runs his stack up to 1150$

I just lose my mind.... i feel like every board misses me and every river card kills me...

I get in this strange mindset that he is up so much in distributon on me that he kinda has won the game even when i would bust his account...

At this point i am not playing with any brain function at all... just pure rage and the stupid "why me?" attitude...


Is there a useful tip or path how i can get this under control ( happens to me more times than i can count, i would say atleast 5-6 times a month)


Ps: he did not quit and in the end i beat him out of 2 buyins, but that was luck on my part that he did not left and i caught a couple of cards :(

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mehrraisen 10 years, 9 months ago
I don't know what volume or how long you already play, but every single player has experienced that feeling at some point of his/her career i guess.

What really made a difference for me is the fact that my bankroll isn't effected by such loosing sessions, meaning that the more confident you can play a certain stake money wise the less you get annoyed/tilted by such things.

So you probably should consider putting more volume in and just getting used to having loosing sessions vs fish (at least sometimes - esp in plo) or just moving down stakes to be more confident with your bankroll/stake ratio.

Thats what helped me at least.. :)


cheers and gl
DialingUP420 10 years, 9 months ago

Two words; Stop loss

Once you get down a few buy ins it's very tough to come back. Most of the time you never get the chance because if you double up once or twice they leave. Even though you got it back this time, that isn't the norm in this situation. Confidence is huge in HU play and once you feel like you're getting crushed and nothing you do matters you're pretty much done. The other player is going to play much better because he has the momentum and you will play much worse.

I sometimes will stick it out, but only after I take a few minute break to make sure I'm ok mentally to continue. If he leaves when I ask for a 5 minute break so be it.

StaticVoid 10 years, 8 months ago

Yes and no. Sometimes these players quit after you bounce back a bit, but it more than makes up for it the times they do stick around and you get to play deepstack HU against a bad player.

buddhadan 10 years, 9 months ago

I think taking a break is not a solution to the problem. It works well as a palliative like painkillers, but the backbone of "not-optimal mindset" is not changed. 

Rapha Nogueira 10 years, 9 months ago

taking a break is not the solution to the main problem. but having a conservative BR management when you are playing your D game is. 

quit, start taking notes on your mental game and get back when you feel comfortable. 

StaticVoid 10 years, 8 months ago

Realize that HU PLO is a game with a lot of variance. Sounds like you may have some BR management problems if a few buy-ins gets you into super-tilt mode causing you to lose 10+ buy ins.

themightyjim 10 years, 8 months ago

LAGs in PLO are occasionally going to run very well for a seemingly long period of time.  For one they are obviously doing one thing right in poker which is aggression.  Any time the base of your play is aggression you have a chance to dominate a player or field for a period of time.  When this player hits a patch where, due to dealt hands or board runouts (or both), he's consistently in the top of his range it is very likely that you are going to get run over.  If you can focus on your A game and not tilt playing villain will still +EV as we can not predict when these random sequences will begin or end.  Every hand is an independent event in one sense.  But if you feel that the losses are causing you to play a less efficient game (ie tilt of some form) you should probably quit.  Not only because playing less than your A-game may negate your edge, but also because you are already losing the information war.  Anytime a player is consistently running you over he's gaining information about your ranges and how you play boards and what you do with weak to medium holdings.  But you are gaining little info about his game because he is doing what he does (betting and raising) and you have no idea where he is in his range.  So you are already playing at an information deficit.  If you can't overcome this deficit with better play then you should quit and wait for a better spot.  Remember, villain's prior success in combination with a period of fortunate variance is only going to improve his play and focus and further embolden his aggression.  Few poker players play worse while they are winning.

I've played many many times where I look back and realize that the LAG I wouldn't quit was just in a much better place to win than me.  It may be the variance that I had experienced during our match, or some tilt leaking into my game.  Or simply that the villain's game matched up particularly well to exploit what ever leaks I had in my game at the time.  This is the value of a stop loss.  1) it can prevent tilt.  2) it can stop us from proceeding in a situation where we are at an informational deficit due to variance.  3) it can stop us from continuing when we face an opponent who may (intentionally or not) be exploiting our leaks.


stop losses aren't for just clearing your head, and helping you sleep at night.  They are a way to force you avoid -EV situations that you might not understand in the moment.
computerscreen 10 years, 8 months ago

focus on learning and not winning, and it will all sort itself out.  Players mistakenly do the opposite, and it's disastrous for the bankroll AND mental health. Learning is the fun of poker, winning is just a meh bonus.  If you're thinking about it another way, you're doing it wrong :)


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