50-200nl Regs sharing winrates
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50-200nl Regs sharing winrates
Hello everyone. I wanted to start a thread where Regs can share there winrates with other Regs in the last year.
I will be willing to share my results as well. like to see where the general winrates of winning regs are in a modern climate.
PS: must have a sample of minimum 100K hands
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Reason for the post is to see how efficient the low stakes have become as a whole in a modern climate. Not to shame or have people brag.
I haven't seen a legitimate winning graph in like 3+ years. Nobody ever, ever posts one. Probably since the games are rigged and designed so that over time, nobody really wins but the house. You know how people are, too: If someone had an impressive graph - you couldn't stop them from showing it off. So, the complete lack of any true winrates being put up says it all.
Thanks for the response, I currently have a win rate around 3-4bb/100 (I know not very impressive)
I feel like that I should be able to improve on that. I was looking to see if other good regs have better winrates over large samples so that I could a better picture of the average of the population at low stakes.
I would think a 3-4bb/100 winrate at 50NL+ is actually pretty impressive in today's games.
that is at reg tables.
Would be cool if people posted their zoom stats in here.
I did a data base aggregate report today on the REGS at each stake
50 nl I have 220,657 hands total over last 12 months from today on regs, with the average stats coming in at 25/21/8.6 3bet WWSF 45.3
WTSD 31% W$SD 52%
Average winrate 3.6bb/100
100NL 156,879 same core stats and time frame
winrate 3.1bb/100
thought I would share my findings
If anyone else would like to post findings please do even from different sites.
PS this is pokerstars sample at those stakes.
My 200z results this year playing part-time.
Are you playing on US or ROW sites?
looks good solid for that stake
200z Stars.eu
Yeah, see. I'd do anything to see someone post a graph like that from WPN, Ignition, or Betonline.
This are my results from Stars 100z. I've been out of poker for a couple of years, but during the covid crisis I felt like playing again. Started only studying a bit, mainly watching the vids on this site (Carroters, Henry Lister, Dekkers, Ashkar) an only started playing 5 weeks ago.
I was a breakeven/slightly winning 50z reg before, so I'm actually surprised I'm winning at the moment. Sample is not huge of course (and running 2bi above ev) I do think I'm a bit better than before, but consider myself not great at all. Have only very basic gto knowledge etc.
Another incentive for grinding decent volume was a Pokerstars Duo Challenge I got offered of $1250,- Had to collect 12.500 redemption points in a month time, equivalent to $2k of rake. I'm now at 90% so that looks good.
thanks for sharing.. If you want to share again at 100k hands please do
50NL fast
Graph does not include rake/rakeback, so actual profit is something like half of it. Most hands are from fast poker format
So this Graph is with VPIP filtered on correct?
Can you post the graph with blinds and rake added in
It's normal graph not including rake/rakeback, you can see all the filters in the screenshot. I cannot add the rake because the graph is from GG. graph in bb
not sure why you mention rake? All graphs show profit after rake has been deducted.
GG graphs isn’t
Even after you import hand histories from the site into your tracker?
yes
That is kinda annoying. Took a look at GGs rake, and the loss rate is 9-11 bb/100 rake 50 nl (depending on how loose your vpip) So your graph is 14-15bb/100 before that correct? that is still pretty good winrate. even though GG has higher rake the games maybe softer on average. What is your opinion on that?
Rake is 5% w 3bb cap at rush. With all the promotions, leaderboards, afilliate deals I think rake is somewhere between 7-8bb/100
I was just looking at there Rake structure. 5% up to 4$ at 50 nl
Thats regular tables rake
Do you find the pool softer than stars?
Winrate on 100NLz stars and probably higher nowadays given I wasnt studying over 80% of this sample. Poker defo still viable in 2020, and very accessible. imo with the right attitude and little bit of help from better players, can move up v quickly
nice winrate. let us know how that winrate continues at 250k hands
50z on stars.pt/es/fr starting on may 2018: https://gyazo.com/643c9b1631fd62f35fe3741fa9399e2d
Overall graph starting in micros in bb: https://gyazo.com/f1e897b00ff3da1607c278a5e4d54098
Overall graph starting in micros in €: https://gyazo.com/15b09b21a0f5cff8e735af223d87d2bf
Regs on my pool have these stats btw(includes al sort of regs from very weak to very strong): https://gyazo.com/7dd70d859615ecda5f90b5459b581e9f
cool thanks
This is a nice initiative but variance takes lots of impact on small samples like 100-500k hands. To really look at winrate you need at least 500k-1kk hands to be close to the real bb/100.
Even on a big sample like 1.2kk hands my winrate could be
70% confidence interval [6.01 BB/100 to 7.73 BB/100]
95% confidence interval [5.15 BB/100 to 8.59 BB/100]
i hope this helps in some way... the games are pretty beatable nowadays.
Stats from last 200k hands:
Graph/winrate for this current database on my pc:
Beautiful graph! Do you pool select or just play whenever?
yes it does take a really large sample. poker dope is a great tool for helping players understand this. thanks for sharing your graph. that winrate puts you in the 1% of winners for that stake.
Hi, I know this post is about a year old but like the original poster I am also curious to what is achievable presently. These 1.2kk hands you have over what period was this achieved? I'd like to know because if it is going back 10 years then what was achievable when you played that portion of the hands from the data back then would be different now. Can you give a rough start date and how many of the hands you would have played in lets say the last 4 1/2 years?
I would like to bump this old thread! I've been away from poker for the last couple of years and am very curious to what achievable winrates are on the current reg/zoom cash tables 25-200nl. Due to regulation in my country (Netehrlands) I only have the choice between iPoker, GG Poker an Unibet. About GG for instance I've been reading that the lowstakes are almost unbeatable (pre-rakeback) due to the high rake. Would love to hear from guys who would want to share their results! I will share mine in the near future, when I have a decent samplesize :)
I thought PS was coming back to the NL. Is it?
Unfortunately not
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