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Fwiw, applications is an awesome book and worth a read either way. Janda really helped me formulate a decent amount of my thought processes earlier in career.

thanks for your input everyone

Some loose passives will jam worse though because they operate on absolute rather than relative strength. I'm simply asking what proportion of fish you feel would do this. I'm not really asking if it's a fold or not.

Besides, imo 40/10 is loose passive. 60/1 is totally clueless, and a much higher frequency of 60/1s are spazz jamming when compared to 40/10s.

5/2 over 87 hands.........he might not be that tight over a bigger sample, but he's definitely a nit.

And I agree that he's never shoving "light". The thing is if he has a set or QT, or T8, or QT, does he even realise that it's a "light" shove? He might just be shoving because he thinks he has the best hand. "I haz 2-pair, allin!"

Some fish will shove Q7 or 77 here, no question about it. The question is, what proportion of fish are bad enough to do it?

Basically I need to be right roughly 36.8% of the time on the river if I call. So if 36.8% of fish are bad enough to shove worse here then it's technically a river call.

What do you think?

Actually the main thing I was curious about is, do you think your average fish will ship worse for value on this river?

Thanks for input.

No info on fold to turn. On the T turn card I expect it to be lower than his average turn fold seeing as it connects with his flop-call range.

I'm surprised you don't think this is an open-raise. Presumably you'd open this from the button right? In this case BU is playing like 5/2 and the small blind is 12/9 or so. The CO is basically a 2nd button on this table.

With 100bb deep I should have really great implieds to play this in position against the huge fish in the BB. Seems like a very obvious spot to open imo.

Jan 1st came and went, and all the old methods of accrueing points still work.

I think that's what I find interesting about the game. Hardly anyone seems to have a clue about strategy. And the people that do - I find some of the stuff they say really questionable.

PLO8 must be where NLHE was like 10 years back. I definitely think the game will grow some point in the future.

Thanks for the info!

I would cbet flop usually.

I would play bet/fold river.

A call here is good if your think your opponent is polarized. If as you say you don't think he is polarized you will have a lot less equity in general and sometimes be way behind here.

I think folding preflop is also going to be fine but it is true you are getting slightly better odds on setmine 120bb deep if you felt your opponent was 3betting very tight vs you give the above mentioned stats.

Basically a preflop call is fine if you think your opponent is 1) really polarized with big bluff range or 2) really tight. It's that grey area in between that makes a fold optimal, especially OOP.

Given the stacks are deep it's becoming the fashion to incoporate a very small 5betting range. You could even think about flatting to keep in any bluffs.

Other than that you could go all-in vs 5bet. I think it would still be too much of a hero fold to lay this down 150bb deep.

Even if he is never bluff-raising his limp-call pf suggests he may have some 2pair hands in his range he is c/r for value. I would re-raise here. Vs an opponent who you though was bluffing a lot you could flat instead.

Preflop is pretty loose, you could think about folding.

The flop is also very loose. Yes, you have a pair but vs the combined ranges of both UTG and CO you don't have a lot of equity. Vs a 5x you are drawing almost dead and vs AA your 3 K outs are no longer good. The rest of the time you opponents have at the very least 2 overs, sometimes with a flush or straight draw.

Turn and river you basically just have a bluffcatcher. You can never raise for value unless CO is a total moron.

Hand is ok. Not much to say without any further info. Against certain types of villains this will be a spew.

Turn and river bets are too thin for value. You are basically bluffing because villain isn't calling with worse and may even fold 2pair.

+1

That's what you are supposed to do when you have the nuts right?

I read it on 2p2 a while back. I remember it being pretty good and found I agreed with it.

From UK too, never watched it.

Lol.......

Like the guy above said. Jared Tendler's book on the mental game of poker is currently in fashion. Pretty decent too, I've read it myself.

It's been years since I watched a Giggy vid! But like mike says, he still crushes right?

Thanks a lot, I will check them out.

My favourite is "small stakes no-limit holdem" by 2+2 publishing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrcivMGTNlU

I was listening to Mercier chat about this on pokercast recently. Sounds intense!