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Hand History for Game 14348857596
NL Texas Hold'em $100 USD Buy-in Trny:114586220 Level:25 Blinds-Antes(6.000/12.000 -1.200) - Sunday, January 18, 21:24:52 EST 2015
Table Sunday Major. $50,000 Gtd (114586220) Table #8 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 9/9
Seat 7: BeMySponZoR ( 129,222 )
Seat 6: CuAt69UsdSnG ( 560,065 )
Seat 8: PaajMats ( 309,481 )
Seat 5: Znork666 ( 72,434 )
Seat 3: cocojones1 ( 585,437 )
Seat 1: dawid8702 ( 322,863 )
Seat 9: inforaise ( 160,136 )
Seat 4: mandilhon ( 235,997 )
Seat 2: ownednutz ( 489,365 )
Trny:114586220 Level:25
Blinds-Antes(6.000/12.000 -1.200)
dawid8702 posts ante [1,200]
ownednutz posts ante [1,200]
cocojones1 posts ante [1,200]
mandilhon posts ante [1,200]
Znork666 posts ante [1,200]
CuAt69UsdSnG posts ante [1,200]
BeMySponZoR posts ante [1,200]
PaajMats posts ante [1,200]
inforaise posts ante [1,200]
ownednutz posts small blind [6,000].
cocojones1 posts big blind [12,000].
Dealing down cards
Dealt to ownednutz [ Ah Ac ]
mandilhon folds
Znork666 folds
CuAt69UsdSnG folds
BeMySponZoR folds
PaajMats folds
info_raise folds
dawid8702 folds
ownednutz raises [24,300]
cocojones1 calls [18,300]
Dealing Flop [ Qc, 5c, 8d ]
ownednutz bets [35,500]
cocojones1 calls [35,500]
Dealing Turn [ 4d ]
Your time bank will be activated in 6 secs. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
ownednutz bets [84,300]
cocojones1 calls [84,300]
Dealing River [ 7d ]
Your time bank will be activated in 6 secs. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
ownednutz will be using his time bank for this hand.
ownednutz checks
cocojones1 bets [180,000]
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ownednutz will be using his time bank for this hand.
ownednutz folds
cocojones1 does not show cards.
cocojones1 wins 491,000 chips
He called the 84k bet OTT really fast, didnt put much thought on it, i think he had his mind made up before he saw the bet.
When i check the river i think my range becomes super capped, but i think he checks back all of his Qx, he might even check some decent 8x since he beat all my blufs and not bluffing with that, and he might not even bet a hand as strong as two pair ( although i think he does), so yeah he could have bluffs but when he called so fast OTT it kinda freezed me.
Also the turn sizing, do you guys think a bigger bet would be beter? 84k i had a bit over potsize left behind so i guess making it 95k seems beter?
Jan. 19, 2015 | 4:46 p.m.
This spot seems to come up occassionally and it always feels like I'm a little lost. It's our first hand at .5/1 speed on ipoker so theres no info at all on any villains except for assumptions about the stack size they are sitting with. I'm going to write it out because I think it will be easiest to see.
hero is otb with 101e, villain 1 in sb with 49e, villain 2 in bb with 79e, villain 3 in co with 112e
folds to villain 3 who limps in the co for 1e, hero raises to 4e otb with QcQh , villain 1 calls, villain 2 calls, villain 3 calls.
Flop: Ts, 8d, 7h
checks around to hero. hero bets 9e into 16e.
villain 1 in sb raises to 30e with 14e behind, villain 2 folds, villain 3 folds
hero?
I understand that I could just throw some math in there with his range and figure out what to do.
I'm more curious how we like to play this spot from a GTO perspective. Do we prefer betting this flop 4 ways vs likely weaker players then making an equity decision based on his likely range? Or do we prefer to get some further information on turn cards by checking behind since this board crushes all of the flatters ranges pretty hard?
Aug. 4, 2014 | 10:07 p.m.
Dont really agree with Xaciddropx, calling the flop is marginal vs this particular player with the reads we had during the tournament, but folding this turn when we spike the nut flushdraw i dont think is a possibility, i think any other turn card that isnt a diamond of a K i think we can easily laydown this hand, still weird that he didnt size the turn to shove less or pot OTR, but easy river fold.
July 10, 2014 | 3:06 p.m.
i agree with Rapha, specially readless and knowing that if u get in tens pre flop there, you're in terrible shape against his value range.
June 16, 2014 | 6:09 p.m.
PokerStars Hand #117575680324: Tournament #921348628, $69+$6 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIX (30000/60000) - 2014/06/15 18:05:38 ET
Table '921348628 172' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: guth888 (682287 in chips)
Seat 2: Izee10 (520077 in chips)
Seat 3: jbrown8777 (214745 in chips)
Seat 4: Volmers (824626 in chips)
Seat 5: konnh4nd (442961 in chips)
Seat 6: mr.thome (1157035 in chips)
Seat 7: komornik (1547100 in chips)
Seat 8: BBlackkk (491169 in chips)
guth888: posts the ante 7500
Izee10: posts the ante 7500
jbrown8777: posts the ante 7500
Volmers: posts the ante 7500
konnh4nd: posts the ante 7500
mr.thome: posts the ante 7500
komornik: posts the ante 7500
BBlackkk: posts the ante 7500
Volmers: posts small blind 30000
konnh4nd: posts big blind 60000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to konnh4nd [Td Qd]
mr.thome: raises 60000 to 120000
komornik: folds
BBlackkk: folds
guth888: folds
Izee10: folds
jbrown8777: folds
Volmers: folds
konnh4nd: calls 60000
*** FLOP *** [9c 2c 8c]
konnh4nd: checks
mr.thome: checks
*** TURN *** [9c 2c 8c] [Th]
konnh4nd: checks
mr.thome: bets 270000
konnh4nd: folds
Uncalled bet (270000) returned to mr.thome
mr.thome collected 330000 from pot
mr.thome: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 330000 | Rake 0
Board [9c 2c 8c Th]
Seat 1: guth888 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Izee10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: jbrown8777 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Volmers (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: konnh4nd (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: mr.thome collected (330000)
Seat 7: komornik folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: BBlackkk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
The call pre flop might be pretty bad, i'm not that good on ICM situations, the guy had the chip lead so i thought he could be opening a bit lighter and if i flop something decent i would just jam.
the check on the flop is what tricks me, unless i'm running into the nuts (made flushes or QQ+ with a club) i dont know what this guy is checking the flop with, and when i made toppair i decided to fold because i got a bit confused, but still think i prob should just go ahead and shove.
What u guys think?
June 16, 2014 | 3:30 p.m.
PokerStars Hand #117565964588: Tournament #920731410, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (20/40) - 2014/06/15 14:44:41 ET
Table '920731410 8' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ingandt (7471 in chips)
Seat 2: konnh4nd (10030 in chips)
Seat 3: WhatArunAA (9940 in chips)
Seat 4: S00Z (12595 in chips)
Seat 5: tiuria (10080 in chips)
Seat 6: AlexElizarov (9682 in chips)
Seat 7: Anusik1979 (9940 in chips)
Seat 8: AliStatus33 (10755 in chips)
Seat 9: Smileon (9447 in chips)
ingandt: posts small blind 20
konnh4nd: posts big blind 40
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to konnh4nd [8h 7h]
WhatArunAA: folds
S00Z: folds
tiuria: folds
AlexElizarov: folds
Anusik1979: folds
AliStatus33: raises 40 to 80
Smileon: calls 80
ingandt: folds
konnh4nd: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [6s 5c 9s]
konnh4nd: checks
AliStatus33: bets 130
Smileon: raises 310 to 440
konnh4nd: raises 885 to 1325
AliStatus33: folds
Smileon: calls 885
*** TURN *** [6s 5c 9s] [Ad]
konnh4nd: bets 2025
Smileon: calls 2025
*** RIVER *** [6s 5c 9s Ad] [6d]
konnh4nd: checks
Smileon: bets 6017 and is all-in
konnh4nd: folds
Uncalled bet (6017) returned to Smileon
Smileon collected 7090 from pot
Smileon: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7090 | Rake 0
Board [6s 5c 9s Ad 6d]
Seat 1: ingandt (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: konnh4nd (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: WhatArunAA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: S00Z folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: tiuria folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: AlexElizarov folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Anusik1979 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: AliStatus33 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Smileon (button) collected (7090)
was one of the first hands of the tournament, dont really know the villain,
also couldnt believe he would call the turn bet with a flushdraw, although he could have ( it's the sunday million )
June 16, 2014 | 6:31 a.m.
But it seems fine yeah
April 13, 2013 | 6:14 p.m.
This comment kind off kills the deal big time, i just don't think u or anyone should be taking those fancy lines against people with no brain.
April 13, 2013 | 1:44 p.m.
April 13, 2013 | 1:22 p.m.
April 13, 2013 | 1:18 p.m.
"i thought if im folding river i should be folding turn"
Sometimes we should just keep it simple, like the worse hand combos he could be betting on this turn is AQ and i don't even know if he 3bet those OOP pre flop, and AK we're drawing to a chop, and i can't stand a river shove unless i have a sick read we have the same hand.
April 12, 2013 | 8:12 a.m.
Anyways, i'm prob just jamming like David said, 3betor will fold a big % of the time in this spot, and since i don't give a fuck about the BB, just stuff.
April 12, 2013 | 8 a.m.
I'm not sure if i good player would stick 56 bigs pre flop with anything worse than AK, JJ+.
"My standard in this spot is to 3 bet small, like 1.8x to take the initiative away, to know where I'm at"
It also don't make much sense, are 3betting for value? or are u bluffing?
I don't get the concept of taking initiative away, you already know his likely raising range from that position,
I think the best "and only" option here is to flat and see the flop against this player, you can make beter judgement using your post flop skills.
When he 4bet shoves it's a pretty easy fold, you're right that this shit looks like AK, but you're way behind of his range.
April 12, 2013 | 7:52 a.m.
The flop call, i'm not even sure if i like this call, just because this board hits his 4bet value range so hard that even if i call, i can't stand another barrel in any other streets, unless i improve the Jack ball in one of then.
The river is a pretty safe fold, you just can't beat anything unless a stone cold bluff, like lucas said you also have two blockers for some likelly blufs that bets the flop, checks the turn and bet the river.
April 12, 2013 | 7:39 a.m.
April 12, 2013 | 7:23 a.m.
If u do have the same stack sizes, i think folding fives in this spot is a little bit criminal, i like the idea of 3b/f, but with this stacks i'm prob just calling and take a look at the flop, 20-22 bigs i'm just jamming, more than that i like to make a decision either 3bet/fold or see the flop
Fantastic Idea guys, i love the video !
April 9, 2015 | 1:25 p.m.