MTT sicko's help needed please! Pre flop facing 3bet from reg
Posted by dablancninja
Posted by dablancninja posted in Mid Stakes
MTT sicko's help needed please! Pre flop facing 3bet from reg
UTG: ADubrovin: 12899
UTG1: sergunchik: 3877
LJ: Kracht tonen: 7067
HJ: arithesharkgold: 4180
CO: dawhiteninja: 4778
BN: MAKKAPAKK: 3610
SB: 4StefanRaab: 7778
BB: The RCO: 3185
UTG1: sergunchik: 3877
LJ: Kracht tonen: 7067
HJ: arithesharkgold: 4180
CO: dawhiteninja: 4778
BN: MAKKAPAKK: 3610
SB: 4StefanRaab: 7778
BB: The RCO: 3185
For those that don't know MAKKAPAKK, he's total sicko up like $300k. I have 62 hands on him running 24/18/7.4(3bet) at the time I'd only seen him 3bet his BB once.
He's effective stack with 23 bigs.
He's effective stack with 23 bigs.
Preflop
(240)
(8 Players)
dawhiteninja was dealt
Q
T
ADubrovin folds, sergunchik folds, Kracht tonen folds, arithesharkgold folds, dawhiteninja raises to 336, MAKKAPAKK raises to 800, 4StefanRaab folds, The RCO folds, dawhiteninja calls 464
ADubrovin folds, sergunchik folds, Kracht tonen folds, arithesharkgold folds, dawhiteninja raises to 336, MAKKAPAKK raises to 800, 4StefanRaab folds, The RCO folds, dawhiteninja calls 464
Standard raise by me, and IMO he can be 3betting in this spot very wide although BB does have only 20 bigs looking at it now so you'd assume he won't be folding if cold 4?... Not sure, think he still can.
Previous to joining this site I'd instant muck, thinking I'd be lucky to be racing otherwise I'm dominated and I'd need a great flop to continue. But since watching all your sicko pro's vids my thinking is "great spot/price for him to 3bet bluff light, yes it's on the biggish size but that makes me doubt the strength of his hand even more, although OOP I'm confident in my post flop skills, I'm now getting a great price to call with a hand that flops extremely well. So in the words of Grafton 'let's take him to the streets'... If I call and miss flop and I fold to cbet I still have 25 bigs which is pretty much same stack strategy wise"
Is this correct thinking? The rest of the hand is irrelevant, it's this spot right here that I need help with. If it's a bad call would it be bad if effective stacks are 30 deep? What about against an unknown/recreational player with similar stats is it more of a fold cause he's never light or more of a call because if you flop well you're getting his whole stack because he can't lay it down? Or is this just a bad call this stage at the tourney even if we think he's light?.... Ahhh! So tricky, I just don't think the wizard that is Galfond folds here.
Over to you guys!....
Previous to joining this site I'd instant muck, thinking I'd be lucky to be racing otherwise I'm dominated and I'd need a great flop to continue. But since watching all your sicko pro's vids my thinking is "great spot/price for him to 3bet bluff light, yes it's on the biggish size but that makes me doubt the strength of his hand even more, although OOP I'm confident in my post flop skills, I'm now getting a great price to call with a hand that flops extremely well. So in the words of Grafton 'let's take him to the streets'... If I call and miss flop and I fold to cbet I still have 25 bigs which is pretty much same stack strategy wise"
Is this correct thinking? The rest of the hand is irrelevant, it's this spot right here that I need help with. If it's a bad call would it be bad if effective stacks are 30 deep? What about against an unknown/recreational player with similar stats is it more of a fold cause he's never light or more of a call because if you flop well you're getting his whole stack because he can't lay it down? Or is this just a bad call this stage at the tourney even if we think he's light?.... Ahhh! So tricky, I just don't think the wizard that is Galfond folds here.
Over to you guys!....
Flop
(1840)
Q
Q
5
(2 Players)
dawhiteninja checks,
MAKKAPAKK bets 960,
dawhiteninja calls 960
Turn
(3760)
Q
Q
5
9
(2 Players)
dawhiteninja checks,
MAKKAPAKK bets 1830, and is all in,
dawhiteninja calls 1830
River
(7420)
Q
Q
5
9
2
(2 Players)
Final Pot
dawhiteninja
wins 7580
One last thing... I'm getting 3.31 to 1 to call 3bet, meaning I need 25% equity to make it a break even cEV call (I think)... give him 8% range on pokerstove and I have 35% equity, give him a stupidly tight range 99+, AQ+ (5%) and I still have 32% equity.
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts...
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