More LIVe videos... im only going to watch live videos from now on... more live videos...
i really like it even though like u have limited time to talk about each hand and everything is your reaction i still like this more than when people know what theyre opponents have before they talk about hands...
MORE LIVE VIDEOS! im going to only watch live videos from now on!
I suggest you watch some more live videos. Haha. I agree with you though, they're my favorite too. I think it's just how everything is so natural. You don't just see instructors at their best, picking out some hand history of a tourney they played great in and won. You see them in the heat of the moment and dealing with things in real time. I love that. The exception might be like a Scoop final table or something, where there is so much on the line. That's fun to watch play in that atmoshpere.
ya, i think sometimes people ramble a lil to much... i dont believe majority of whats learned is from being told... i like when you talk about random stuff thats not planned also... im looking forward to your next live video GJ!
Okay cool, thanks for the feedback on that. I agree with you that the visual part is more important than it gets credit for. Especially with four tables going, because there is so much raw material to learn from.
I like live vids as well. Really enjoying hearing some of your strategies and decision making processes. I.E. not forcing out hands that we dominate with our 3-betting sizing, making it bigger than 2.5x early on, etc... This is really helpful stuff.
And just to follow up on this point. I've been re-watching these videos as the series has been released, you know, just to see how it looks on the big screen :D. But one thing that's striking me pretty good as I watch is that there is so much more room for me to be making exploitable plays vs people who aren't going to exploit me either in the moment, or down the road by virtue of having my range be severely out of balance because of a profitable vacuum play I'm making in the current hand. My goal going forward is going to be to make sure I'm staying fully conscious of what tournaments, and what specific opponents I can be playing exploitably vs, and do it! As I think sit here now and think of what this will mean, I'm realizing that I could have a few different c-bet sizes on the same table, depending on who I'm c-betting vs, for various reasons. Same story with 3-betting and really any aspect of betting situaitons you can think of.
Hey Maddsoul. That's awesome! I'm glad you're getting specific concepts from my videos that you're able to apply to your own game going forward. That's the best way to learn. You can't just memorize what you see in a video, what to do with X hand in Y spot: you really have to understand the underlying concept behind the decisions so that you can apply it dynamically during your own play. Thanks for watching, cheers.
Great vid Nick! WAY prefer the live vids. Think I typically prefer a push on the 10 J hand with 10bb! Although I might be on the other end of the spectrum and push too light with 10 bigs :) Anyway, really enjoying the series man!
Hey Paul. I'm glad you're enjoying the live videos. Thanks for the feedback on that. It seems that the response has been really good for this format so far, so that's good to know.
Yeah I think I tend to tighten up a tad on shoving, generally speaking. I'm hoping to reduce variance a tiny bit, and prolong my tournament life.
Hey Klondike! This is a good question. As a very general statement, and something I mentioned in the video, is that I'm experimenting with things. Limping in the SB is one of them. However, I also had some very specific reasons for limping vs this player. The main one being that I had previously limped Bvb vs him (as seen in part one of this series) with J8hh, and he raised. Now in that pot I called and simply check folded when I flopped no equity on AK2cc. Of course this is only one hand, and in a sample size that small, so small that it's just mathematically silly, it's impossible to draw any firm conclusions. But it is an indication that he is more likely to play these spots aggressively than passively.
Even if that thin assumption turns out to be wrong, there still is no real penalty or drawback for me limping here. I'm still going to a flop with in a limped pot with an awesome, disguised hand, versus a range of all hands that are unworthy of a range. The player in the big blind has the bottom 80% of hands or so. Now if he does choose to raise me preflop, I have good options here as well. I can simply call and again play a pot with a great hand, that's disguised as well. I can choose to limp re-raise, and he might interpret that as light or as a bluff because of the developing history we have with one another. I see nothing but good things happening for me. The only downside comes when I limp in, and end up losing the pot to a hand that would have folded had I simply raised preflop, and forced that hand out of the pot then.
I would argue that these instances are far fewer and less harmful than the instances of good things that are more beneficial to me happening when I limp. In terms of psychology, I think that he thinks I'm more likely to be ready to play back at him if he raises my limp, since this is the second time in a row he's done that. Because of that, and since I actually have a great hand and not an impulsive bluff, I'm responding in the manner that he's expecting, but with a hand far stronger than what he might anticipate.
I've been doing things like this for a few months now and finding some good success. I will also limp weaker hands here, and to be quite frank, some total trash hands at times if I see conditions I think could make the play profitable. I haven't defined this strategy into an accepted science by any means, but I can tell you that anecdotally the results have been good.
Real enjoyed this this. Your doing an awsome job. Just a quick question how many tables do you load up at once and how many tournament do you play daily. I am trying to figure out how much bankroll i should invest in to tournaments.
Hello Lostchele. I'm glad you enjoyed this video, and thank you for your kind words!
I would say I play about 30 tournaments daily. When I play an MTT session, I like to play for most or all of the day. I think it is more efficient to do things this way. If I get far in one tournament, I do not want to just be playing that one table for 4 hours. I want to be playing other things along side it, in order to make the most efficient use of my time. It takes time to build up this stamina though. My advice to you would be to start out with what is comfortable for you, both physically and mentally. If you start to get tired or unfocused after X amount of hours, then you know you're past your current limit of what you can tolerate. I would encourage you to actively try to increase that limit, increase the amount of hours your body and mind can tolerate. This will make you more efficient with the time you spend at poker, and give you more chances for success.
I have been playing for 6+ years, but have never gotten comfortable playing more than 12 tables really. Over the past year, I have improved my skills very much in this area. Now I can play up to 18 tables at times and do okay. It is tough though, and I would say 15 is a more comfortable amount. I can handle 12 very well, and 9 or less is relaxing :) I realize this may sound like a lot of tables, but as I said, it took me years to build up my skill and ability in this area.
Deciding how much of your bankroll to invest in tournaments is very important, so it is good that you are thinking about this. A very general rule that is out there in the poker world is that to be safe, you need 100x the buyin of a tournament in your bankroll. So, if you are playing a $10 tournament, you need a $1000 bankroll. Tournaments have very much variance in them, and even the best players can who make no mistakes can lose over long periods of time. This is why you must protect yourself by not entering a tournament if it's for too big of a percentage of your bankroll. Now if you have a job or something, and the money that is in your bankroll can be replaced, then things are a little big different. You essentially have a bigger bankroll, and can take more risks. Even in that case, my advice is to be safe. Things can happen quickly in online poker, and especially tournaments, so you should be cautious.
I just did a quick search on the forums to find some other information that might be helpful to you. Look through as much of this as you can:
I'm a low limit donk, but can we not set mine at 14:20 of this video in the Trex w/ TT. Is this a leak if I'm set mining here a lot? I don't play this high of buy ins so maybe I'm off base here. Any thoughts or comments appreciated. Thanks for your videos
Hi Ipow78. Good eye and good question. Looking back at it, I think you're right. I think we can make a profit peeling this 3b with TT, 44x, and position. I think our pot odds and implied odds will be good enough for us to board / set mine. His range has a good chunk of AK in it, and quite possibly a lot of AQ. He could even have other broadway hands he's 3betting as a merge (he may not be comfortable flatting much OOP. If he's really trying to be somebody, he might have suited connectors here. So, our equity vs his range could be better than we think, if his range is weaker than just TT+ AK+.
I think it would be a good exercise for you to try to work out the math here. If you want to move up in buyins you're going to have to spend some time doing things you don't want to do. One of the big ones, at least if you're me, was sitting down to work out the math. I think it's important players understand the method of doing it, as well as finding and understanding the answer of course. Why don't you sit down and work this out and report back your findings here? That way I and everyone can benefit, too =) His range should be pretty easy to figure out. You can even do two scenarios for his range. One where it's really tight (in case he's a tight player) and one where it's really loose (in the case that he's a loose player who likes to squeeze). From there it will be simple to find our equity with TT vs his range. Then you can use the pot odds and stacks to determine our implied odds. Below is a link to a thread where I work out this process in general. This should be a useful example for you to follow as you do this work. Happy mathing!
Hello Hugo! You are quite welcome, I am glad you're enjoying the videos. It's never too late =)
I think shoving the river is more of the standard play here, but I don't think it's a big difference between the two bet sizes. I chose to bet 4850 instead of shove for 7000 because I thought he would call/fold with the same hands vs each bet size. Therefore, I am risking less by betting the smaller amount, and this is a good thing for me. However, that was just what I assumed. I am not sure if this is true or not. It sounds like you think the opposite - that a shove for 7k will get a fold more than a slightly smaller bet of ~5000. My other thought was that he might give me more credit for having overpairs with this betsize - he might think that I am not confident enough in that my overpair is good to shove all in, but I am confident enough in my overpair to bet 5k. Again, I am nor sure how the villain in this hand is perceiving the situation and my bet sizing, but those were my thoughts at the time.
Good question about TT! Honestly I think I would shove with TT (all my value hands) because I think this makes me look a bit weaker, and to get the maximum payoff when I am called.
Hey Nick great video! I think that J10 hand is pretty close as well. I would probably shove it but it definitely is boarder line. The first thing i look at in this situation is who's big blind am i shoving into, what is their stack depth , and what type of player are they. If they are more on the Reg side they will be calling you wider depending on their stack size with hands that likely dominate J10 or are a slight favorite. If they are more of a in experienced player they tend to call much tighter because they don't fully understand open shoving or calling open shoves. Then You could look at the players to your right's raise first stats and determine how likely it is for you to find a bvb, button, or cutoff open shove. If you think it is likely that you could find one then you can add that to your decision of shoving or waiting in this J10 spot. I would rather make a bvb ATC shove if the person to my left is a good candidate for folding more often to a bvb shove. I hope this helps.
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More LIVe videos... im only going to watch live videos from now on... more live videos...
i really like it even though like u have limited time to talk about each hand and everything is your reaction i still like this more than when people know what theyre opponents have before they talk about hands...
MORE LIVE VIDEOS! im going to only watch live videos from now on!
I suggest you watch some more live videos. Haha. I agree with you though, they're my favorite too. I think it's just how everything is so natural. You don't just see instructors at their best, picking out some hand history of a tourney they played great in and won. You see them in the heat of the moment and dealing with things in real time. I love that. The exception might be like a Scoop final table or something, where there is so much on the line. That's fun to watch play in that atmoshpere.
its fine to not always be talking...
You think? I worry that people will get bored or want me to always be trying to speak about something!
ya, i think sometimes people ramble a lil to much... i dont believe majority of whats learned is from being told... i like when you talk about random stuff thats not planned also... im looking forward to your next live video GJ!
Okay cool, thanks for the feedback on that. I agree with you that the visual part is more important than it gets credit for. Especially with four tables going, because there is so much raw material to learn from.
I like live vids as well. Really enjoying hearing some of your strategies and decision making processes. I.E. not forcing out hands that we dominate with our 3-betting sizing, making it bigger than 2.5x early on, etc... This is really helpful stuff.
And just to follow up on this point. I've been re-watching these videos as the series has been released, you know, just to see how it looks on the big screen :D. But one thing that's striking me pretty good as I watch is that there is so much more room for me to be making exploitable plays vs people who aren't going to exploit me either in the moment, or down the road by virtue of having my range be severely out of balance because of a profitable vacuum play I'm making in the current hand. My goal going forward is going to be to make sure I'm staying fully conscious of what tournaments, and what specific opponents I can be playing exploitably vs, and do it! As I think sit here now and think of what this will mean, I'm realizing that I could have a few different c-bet sizes on the same table, depending on who I'm c-betting vs, for various reasons. Same story with 3-betting and really any aspect of betting situaitons you can think of.
Hey Maddsoul. That's awesome! I'm glad you're getting specific concepts from my videos that you're able to apply to your own game going forward. That's the best way to learn. You can't just memorize what you see in a video, what to do with X hand in Y spot: you really have to understand the underlying concept behind the decisions so that you can apply it dynamically during your own play. Thanks for watching, cheers.
Great vid Nick! WAY prefer the live vids. Think I typically prefer a push on the 10 J hand with 10bb! Although I might be on the other end of the spectrum and push too light with 10 bigs :) Anyway, really enjoying the series man!
Hey Paul. I'm glad you're enjoying the live videos. Thanks for the feedback on that. It seems that the response has been really good for this format so far, so that's good to know.
Yeah I think I tend to tighten up a tad on shoving, generally speaking. I'm hoping to reduce variance a tiny bit, and prolong my tournament life.
What are the reasons you chose to openlimp SB with 30 bb deep vs BB about 28 minutes in ?
I cant edit the other post.
Im curious why you open limp the SB with AJs 31 bb deep around time 27.30 ?
Hey Klondike! This is a good question. As a very general statement, and something I mentioned in the video, is that I'm experimenting with things. Limping in the SB is one of them. However, I also had some very specific reasons for limping vs this player. The main one being that I had previously limped Bvb vs him (as seen in part one of this series) with J8hh, and he raised. Now in that pot I called and simply check folded when I flopped no equity on AK2cc. Of course this is only one hand, and in a sample size that small, so small that it's just mathematically silly, it's impossible to draw any firm conclusions. But it is an indication that he is more likely to play these spots aggressively than passively.
Even if that thin assumption turns out to be wrong, there still is no real penalty or drawback for me limping here. I'm still going to a flop with in a limped pot with an awesome, disguised hand, versus a range of all hands that are unworthy of a range. The player in the big blind has the bottom 80% of hands or so. Now if he does choose to raise me preflop, I have good options here as well. I can simply call and again play a pot with a great hand, that's disguised as well. I can choose to limp re-raise, and he might interpret that as light or as a bluff because of the developing history we have with one another. I see nothing but good things happening for me. The only downside comes when I limp in, and end up losing the pot to a hand that would have folded had I simply raised preflop, and forced that hand out of the pot then.
I would argue that these instances are far fewer and less harmful than the instances of good things that are more beneficial to me happening when I limp. In terms of psychology, I think that he thinks I'm more likely to be ready to play back at him if he raises my limp, since this is the second time in a row he's done that. Because of that, and since I actually have a great hand and not an impulsive bluff, I'm responding in the manner that he's expecting, but with a hand far stronger than what he might anticipate.
I've been doing things like this for a few months now and finding some good success. I will also limp weaker hands here, and to be quite frank, some total trash hands at times if I see conditions I think could make the play profitable. I haven't defined this strategy into an accepted science by any means, but I can tell you that anecdotally the results have been good.
OK I really like that very well thought out.
Hello I get this when I try to watch the video
http://prntscr.com/1almqp
Hey Alex, it looks like it was a problem on our end here. There is a thread about it here: http://www.runitonce.com/chatter/problems-with-watching-videos/
It should be fixed now though. Glgl
Real enjoyed this this. Your doing an awsome job. Just a quick question how many tables do you load up at once and how many tournament do you play daily. I am trying to figure out how much bankroll i should invest in to tournaments.
Hello Lostchele. I'm glad you enjoyed this video, and thank you for your kind words!
I would say I play about 30 tournaments daily. When I play an MTT session, I like to play for most or all of the day. I think it is more efficient to do things this way. If I get far in one tournament, I do not want to just be playing that one table for 4 hours. I want to be playing other things along side it, in order to make the most efficient use of my time. It takes time to build up this stamina though. My advice to you would be to start out with what is comfortable for you, both physically and mentally. If you start to get tired or unfocused after X amount of hours, then you know you're past your current limit of what you can tolerate. I would encourage you to actively try to increase that limit, increase the amount of hours your body and mind can tolerate. This will make you more efficient with the time you spend at poker, and give you more chances for success.
I have been playing for 6+ years, but have never gotten comfortable playing more than 12 tables really. Over the past year, I have improved my skills very much in this area. Now I can play up to 18 tables at times and do okay. It is tough though, and I would say 15 is a more comfortable amount. I can handle 12 very well, and 9 or less is relaxing :) I realize this may sound like a lot of tables, but as I said, it took me years to build up my skill and ability in this area.
Deciding how much of your bankroll to invest in tournaments is very important, so it is good that you are thinking about this. A very general rule that is out there in the poker world is that to be safe, you need 100x the buyin of a tournament in your bankroll. So, if you are playing a $10 tournament, you need a $1000 bankroll. Tournaments have very much variance in them, and even the best players can who make no mistakes can lose over long periods of time. This is why you must protect yourself by not entering a tournament if it's for too big of a percentage of your bankroll. Now if you have a job or something, and the money that is in your bankroll can be replaced, then things are a little big different. You essentially have a bigger bankroll, and can take more risks. Even in that case, my advice is to be safe. Things can happen quickly in online poker, and especially tournaments, so you should be cautious.
I just did a quick search on the forums to find some other information that might be helpful to you. Look through as much of this as you can:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32/beginners-questions/bankroll-managment-1059796/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32/beginners-questions/bankroll-management-1066539/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=23737128&postcount=14
Hi Nick,
I'm a low limit donk, but can we not set mine at 14:20 of this video in the Trex w/ TT. Is this a leak if I'm set mining here a lot? I don't play this high of buy ins so maybe I'm off base here. Any thoughts or comments appreciated. Thanks for your videos
Hi Ipow78. Good eye and good question. Looking back at it, I think you're right. I think we can make a profit peeling this 3b with TT, 44x, and position. I think our pot odds and implied odds will be good enough for us to board / set mine. His range has a good chunk of AK in it, and quite possibly a lot of AQ. He could even have other broadway hands he's 3betting as a merge (he may not be comfortable flatting much OOP. If he's really trying to be somebody, he might have suited connectors here. So, our equity vs his range could be better than we think, if his range is weaker than just TT+ AK+.
I think it would be a good exercise for you to try to work out the math here. If you want to move up in buyins you're going to have to spend some time doing things you don't want to do. One of the big ones, at least if you're me, was sitting down to work out the math. I think it's important players understand the method of doing it, as well as finding and understanding the answer of course. Why don't you sit down and work this out and report back your findings here? That way I and everyone can benefit, too =) His range should be pretty easy to figure out. You can even do two scenarios for his range. One where it's really tight (in case he's a tight player) and one where it's really loose (in the case that he's a loose player who likes to squeeze). From there it will be simple to find our equity with TT vs his range. Then you can use the pot odds and stacks to determine our implied odds. Below is a link to a thread where I work out this process in general. This should be a useful example for you to follow as you do this work. Happy mathing!
http://www.runitonce.com/pro-training/videos/nick19/
Hi Nick,
Thanks for your work . I really enjoy your videos just discover them. A bit too late but ...it's ok .
AsTc 9:52 : Don't you think , we can just shove river?
u got a pot size bet + I think we make him fold a single pair more often?
If you had TT here would you made same sizing ?
Hello Hugo! You are quite welcome, I am glad you're enjoying the videos. It's never too late =)
I think shoving the river is more of the standard play here, but I don't think it's a big difference between the two bet sizes. I chose to bet 4850 instead of shove for 7000 because I thought he would call/fold with the same hands vs each bet size. Therefore, I am risking less by betting the smaller amount, and this is a good thing for me. However, that was just what I assumed. I am not sure if this is true or not. It sounds like you think the opposite - that a shove for 7k will get a fold more than a slightly smaller bet of ~5000. My other thought was that he might give me more credit for having overpairs with this betsize - he might think that I am not confident enough in that my overpair is good to shove all in, but I am confident enough in my overpair to bet 5k. Again, I am nor sure how the villain in this hand is perceiving the situation and my bet sizing, but those were my thoughts at the time.
Good question about TT! Honestly I think I would shove with TT (all my value hands) because I think this makes me look a bit weaker, and to get the maximum payoff when I am called.
Hey Nick great video! I think that J10 hand is pretty close as well. I would probably shove it but it definitely is boarder line. The first thing i look at in this situation is who's big blind am i shoving into, what is their stack depth , and what type of player are they. If they are more on the Reg side they will be calling you wider depending on their stack size with hands that likely dominate J10 or are a slight favorite. If they are more of a in experienced player they tend to call much tighter because they don't fully understand open shoving or calling open shoves. Then You could look at the players to your right's raise first stats and determine how likely it is for you to find a bvb, button, or cutoff open shove. If you think it is likely that you could find one then you can add that to your decision of shoving or waiting in this J10 spot. I would rather make a bvb ATC shove if the person to my left is a good candidate for folding more often to a bvb shove. I hope this helps.
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