I know its a small spot but right around the 20:00 mark when the bubble bursts and you jam KQs, are there any hands you would raise small with to induce?
Hey Biro, thanks for the question. No spot is too small to talk about! Yes, I would raise to like 3300 with TT+. I don't think he would limp broadway hands as often here at this stack depth, I figure he'd raise them or shove them. I expect him to be limping a pretty weak range, Ax hands and some speculative suited connecting type of things. If he I felt he was limping broadway hands, I'd likely shove TT to prevent him from realizing his equity postflop with a hand like QJ.
I liked (and agreed) with your speech about not even watching or reacting all-ins. Really think the EV of watching and reacting positively or negatively is so negative that it can cost you 100s of BIs. The mental hole you get in to after seeing a big hand cracked just gets deeper and deeper. It's not worth the hassle.
John, my man! You summed it up perfectly right here. The cost of being emotionally attached to an all-in that you described above may seem extreme to some, but I totally agree with you. The costs can be enormous. Playing 10+ tables for 8+ hours a day, each of us is going to encounter tons of beats. Tons of spots where big equity gets pushed the other way, even though we were the favorites. By being emotionally invested in each of these pots, we're setting ourselves up to fail. We're crippling our own mindset. In most every tournament you play, it's going to end in some fashion that is A) not desirable (we don't win, or at least FT) and B) the result of a bad beat. We have to win countless allin confrontations, several flips, and dodge poor luck in many other ways in order to make the final table of a tournament, and be able to play for a win. Even if the first 6 such allins go your way, and the 7th eliminates you on the bubble, or even with a min cash, that's the taste we're left with in our mouth (mind). We don;t think, "oh what a great tournament, I went 6/7 in allin preflop spots!". We think "my god, if only I won that one, that's the crucial one, the pot I never win. If I won that one I would have been cruising to the final table". Well that's going to happen almost every tournament you play, so you can see how it multiplies, soon leaving you with a really negative view on poker and your own luck.
Sure when you're down to your last couple of tables, or deep in a big one. Have some fun. Get fired up for each pot, each allin. That type if thing is what we play for, it lets us know our poker passion is alive. I would advise everyone to do that, but there's two things. First, you can't fake it. If you don't feel the passion, the fire, then don't get fired up for allins. If the disappointment you get from losing is greater than the gain you get from winning, then you're creating negative energy by having emotional attachments to pots. In cases like this, I would advise you to think of yourself as a computer. Just make decisions. Don't allow any emotions to creep in. You win a tournament? Great, now how did you play? Save the high fives and champagne for later. You busted in 5th? 12th? 142nd? No worries, no disappointment here. How did I play? Evaluate and get better. A computer. I usually advise people to try to take on that approach, because what I've seen in myself, my poker friends, and my poker peers, is that emotion inevitably trends toward the negative in poker. For most of us, that's just the way it is. The final point I'll make on this important subject, is that sometimes that disappointment can be a good thing. If you're the type to get fired up from losing, from getting beaten, from getting "robbed" deep in a tournament, then use that. Use that disappointment to fuel your motivation to get better, to get to that place again and succeed. I've seen a couple top players use this very very well to their advantage.
Know yourself, be honest with yourself, and work on structuring your emotional approach to poker in a way that's optimal for your disposition.
Yeah, that speech was great. I'm kinda getting there myself now after having a couple of breakdowns recently and feeling really sorry for myself. It's just not worth it. You know, I've had success before and I will have it again. It's not gone forever, no matter how bad it's been lately. What have I learned from it? Just keep improving.
My man! Everyone, here's a guy that gets it. I love that. And you know what, we're only human. Of course we're going to experience disappointment. But you worked through that by saying things like, it's just not worth it, or guess what, I've had success before, it's coming again, what can I do to get it here ASAP? Great stuff buddy. I wrote more on the topic in my post above if you fancy. Good luck.
Good looking out ronswanson, thank you. Great thread. The kid has to be one of the hardest working people in poker right now, we can all take something away from his example.
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I know its a small spot but right around the 20:00 mark when the bubble bursts and you jam KQs, are there any hands you would raise small with to induce?
Hey Biro, thanks for the question. No spot is too small to talk about! Yes, I would raise to like 3300 with TT+. I don't think he would limp broadway hands as often here at this stack depth, I figure he'd raise them or shove them. I expect him to be limping a pretty weak range, Ax hands and some speculative suited connecting type of things. If he I felt he was limping broadway hands, I'd likely shove TT to prevent him from realizing his equity postflop with a hand like QJ.
I liked (and agreed) with your speech about not even watching or reacting all-ins. Really think the EV of watching and reacting positively or negatively is so negative that it can cost you 100s of BIs. The mental hole you get in to after seeing a big hand cracked just gets deeper and deeper. It's not worth the hassle.
Keep the vids coming Nick.
John, my man! You summed it up perfectly right here. The cost of being emotionally attached to an all-in that you described above may seem extreme to some, but I totally agree with you. The costs can be enormous. Playing 10+ tables for 8+ hours a day, each of us is going to encounter tons of beats. Tons of spots where big equity gets pushed the other way, even though we were the favorites. By being emotionally invested in each of these pots, we're setting ourselves up to fail. We're crippling our own mindset. In most every tournament you play, it's going to end in some fashion that is A) not desirable (we don't win, or at least FT) and B) the result of a bad beat. We have to win countless allin confrontations, several flips, and dodge poor luck in many other ways in order to make the final table of a tournament, and be able to play for a win. Even if the first 6 such allins go your way, and the 7th eliminates you on the bubble, or even with a min cash, that's the taste we're left with in our mouth (mind). We don;t think, "oh what a great tournament, I went 6/7 in allin preflop spots!". We think "my god, if only I won that one, that's the crucial one, the pot I never win. If I won that one I would have been cruising to the final table". Well that's going to happen almost every tournament you play, so you can see how it multiplies, soon leaving you with a really negative view on poker and your own luck.
Sure when you're down to your last couple of tables, or deep in a big one. Have some fun. Get fired up for each pot, each allin. That type if thing is what we play for, it lets us know our poker passion is alive. I would advise everyone to do that, but there's two things. First, you can't fake it. If you don't feel the passion, the fire, then don't get fired up for allins. If the disappointment you get from losing is greater than the gain you get from winning, then you're creating negative energy by having emotional attachments to pots. In cases like this, I would advise you to think of yourself as a computer. Just make decisions. Don't allow any emotions to creep in. You win a tournament? Great, now how did you play? Save the high fives and champagne for later. You busted in 5th? 12th? 142nd? No worries, no disappointment here. How did I play? Evaluate and get better. A computer. I usually advise people to try to take on that approach, because what I've seen in myself, my poker friends, and my poker peers, is that emotion inevitably trends toward the negative in poker. For most of us, that's just the way it is. The final point I'll make on this important subject, is that sometimes that disappointment can be a good thing. If you're the type to get fired up from losing, from getting beaten, from getting "robbed" deep in a tournament, then use that. Use that disappointment to fuel your motivation to get better, to get to that place again and succeed. I've seen a couple top players use this very very well to their advantage.
Know yourself, be honest with yourself, and work on structuring your emotional approach to poker in a way that's optimal for your disposition.
Yeah, that speech was great. I'm kinda getting there myself now after having a couple of breakdowns recently and feeling really sorry for myself. It's just not worth it. You know, I've had success before and I will have it again. It's not gone forever, no matter how bad it's been lately. What have I learned from it? Just keep improving.
Yeah. I consider this a part of an overall poker skill. We can see that all the time... the better the player the less complaining and vice versa.
My man! Everyone, here's a guy that gets it. I love that. And you know what, we're only human. Of course we're going to experience disappointment. But you worked through that by saying things like, it's just not worth it, or guess what, I've had success before, it's coming again, what can I do to get it here ASAP? Great stuff buddy. I wrote more on the topic in my post above if you fancy. Good luck.
Can you please share a link to a thread on 2p2 about this hardworking guy you were talking about? I couldnt understand his nickname...
Good looking out ronswanson, thank you. Great thread. The kid has to be one of the hardest working people in poker right now, we can all take something away from his example.
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