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First ever live MTT: looking for advice

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First ever live MTT: looking for advice

Hey. Gonna be playing my first ever live MTT in ~2 weeks. I have never played live before in a casino. The event is the 700+70£ UKIPT Bristol in the Gala casino. Wanted to ask a few questions and ask general advice on how to play live.

What assumptions that I make online should I not make live?
What adjustments should I be making when playing live?
What should my default stance on unknowns be? What should I assume about a young guy compared to an old guy etc.?
What reads/tells should I be most self-conscious about giving off?
What reads on other players should I take into consideration? common tells etc.?
Should I hood/sunglasses up or not? I think it looks stupid xD
Any advice on how to deal with the long hours and monotonous days?

Please say anything else you think is relevant, thanks.

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Sam Greenwood 12 years, 5 months ago
I'd make a point of not having an iPod/iPad etc and trying to observe every hand to get good general reads on everyone at the table. A good skill in live poker is being able to quickly and accurately profile unkowns, it's easy to assume stuff like "oh old guy = tight", but there are plenty of old guys who make random spazzy bluffs for random spazzy reasons. Obviously young guys are more likely to be aggressive, but it's only a 700£ tournament so there can be lots of young guys who satted in or took a shot and a very nervous because it's their first big tournament ever and will be playing tight.

Hood/sunglasses do look stupid, but it's your first tournament, you should be a lot more concerned with being comfortable than with looking cool. When I started playing live tourneys I did the hood/sunglasses thing and I loved it because when I was deep in the tank I didn't need to worry about shit like "uh oh if I blink he will think I am bluffing" followed by "uh oh my eyes are watering time to find a spot to blink, lets hope he doesn't snap me off" Additionaly when you watch how clueless most of these people are at the strategic elements of poker, remember that despite their apparent bravado they are pretty inexperienced at poker in general and any skill they have in reading others could just be guessing right on coinflips.
Phil Galfond 12 years, 5 months ago
All good advice by Sam. The most important things to remember, in my opinions:

1) 95% of them are not reading you.
Make the plays you think are right with no fear of being soul read.

2) They are ABSOLUTELY not thinking on your level.
Do not give them credit to fold when you 'can't be bluffing' or to bluff when you 'are usually weak'. Do not expect them to be leveling you, or to not bluff just because they should know they can't rep anything. Pay attention to how they are playing (often very systematically, based on cards, positions, and standard lines).

I really can't stress enough how important it's been for me to fight off giving people too much credit. I've made so many mistakes because I thought people were thinking on a much higher level than they actually were. I missed many bluffs because I knew I couldn't rep anything, but the truth is, they wouldn't have known that.

GL!
Lucas Greenwood 12 years, 5 months ago
Deal with long hours and monotonous days by taking care of yourself, eating stay hydrated etc. If your starting to get tilted skip wait till your utg+1 or 2 and skip the hands and go for a walk, go to the washroom etc. The ev of being focused is substantially higher than missing 2 hands your are 85% to not play. Especially because on scheduled breaks you end up waiting in bathroom lines for the whole break and end up getting even more tilted.
Jason Koon 12 years, 5 months ago
-Find opponents are who aren't folding to 3bets and isolate them relentlessly in position.
-Your standard cbet size needs to be much smaller than in cash games. Most opponents aren't even observing sizing and won't adjust correctly.
-Don't eat a big dinner, a lot of blood rushing to your stomach for digestion will make the brain work in slow mo.

Gl!
James Obst 12 years, 5 months ago
I think it's really important to come in with a confident attitude but also make sure you give your opponents respect, even if they don't necessarily deserve it. Initially I think the biggest mistake I was making was being a bit too arrogant in my own head; I didn't fold a lot of flops and turns when I should have, preferring to make decisions on later streets and to try to build a strong table image whereby players would be scared to get involved with me; the problem was that I leaked a lot of chips in doing so and my stack fluctuations were even worse than normal.

The biggest mistake I made thereafter was becoming scared of giving off any tells after I recognised I had given things off. I found I had trouble stopping myself from shaking when I was in a big pot even though I wasn't or shouldn't have been feeling anxious.

My personal opinion is that listening to music is a very good thing, I didn't for a long time cause I was disorganised but you should still be able to be very alert and observant with music playing in your ears, I think it will just help to settle you. Keep it on low so you can hear the chat at the table and you won't flip out when the dealer asks you to give someone change and you don't realise what's going on. I'd encourage not hiding behind glasses as well; there's obvious arguments to do it but not doing so projects a lot more confidence both to others and within yourself. Maybe come up with a few ideas for what to do with your eyes while someone's trying to soul-read you that you can keep consistent regardless of your holdings. If you think you're still giving off tells, like Phil said few people will actually be able to interpret them, and you have to learn and practise anyway. GL!
Phil Galfond 12 years, 5 months ago
Though it looks like what James and I said are contradictory (respect opponents vs. not respect them), I don't disagree with him at all. I just think we're using the term differently.

In my opinion, you should not give your opponents credit for thinking at a high level, reading your hand well, or being balanced. They're usually going to be very bad players. HOWEVER, don't think that means you're entitled to win most of the pots.

I have gotten carried away playing way too loosely, like James mentioned, planning to 'outplay' my opponents later. You're going to be able to make good bluffing, value betting, and calling decisions, but many times you'll find yourself on the turn or river in a spot where you have no hand to call with, and you know they aren't folding to any reasonable action. How are you going to outplay them now?

A lot of these guys will be bad, yes, but some will be VPIPing 15%, and raising with 10%. Don't get caught trying to take your T4s and your 50bbs and "outplay" the guy with KK.
Sam Lang 12 years, 5 months ago
Cheers for all the advice guys been very helpful. Playing day 1A on thursday, I'll let you know how it goes :) got good feel about it though which is nice and even though it's my first tournament I'm gonna go in with as confident attitude as possible
Kevin Boudreau 12 years, 3 months ago
If you are easy to get too hot/cold, dress in layers.
Take long walks on the breaks.
I agree that it is very easy to get carried away trying to win too many pots and outplay, what you assume are all weak, opponents. Don't let this stop you from trying imo, just be aware of how much everyone is paying attention and likely to adjust/exploit. Try to figure out what level people are on by being a human and talking to them and asking questions.
Play a live cash session before you play the tournament and get any nerves out of your system. Each year at the WSOP, my first day is a weird one. I'm at/near my highest level of attention, but I'm also slightly more nervous/anxious/uncomfortable.
No music, unless you think it makes you play more focused or more patient. Placebo type of problem, but -ev mostly.

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